The context of no context

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Does anyone have this kind of experience? There are lots of times when things around me seem to just be there for no reason, but not like in a weird way. They just are. It's almost like God had just created everything with those things in the exact places and states they are in; there is no meaning to be got from the environment, so I focus on what I'm focusing on.

with everything being in a constant state of flux, and action, reaction being about the only reason for everything, I'm going to go with no. people do things for no reason, and put reason upon making things up that arent true. pritty sure god is not magical enough to just randomly place stuff all over the place, regardless of what religions may say.

Sorry, I meant the God thing as a metaphor. Basically, I was just referring to the meaninglessness and randomness of the surrounding envionment's arrangement. I am also not just, or even really, referring to other people.

I don't understand the significance here....if what you wrote is the "atypical" experience, what is the typical one? What are your other times like? (Not sure I understand, but my answer to your question is probably "yes"....I don't know if I have any other kind of experience.)

Is that atypical? I get it a lot, but at times I can see the context.

Sorry, I didn't mean I thought it was atypical; I thought you were saying it was atypical, and that something else was more typical...I totally misinterpreted your post.

I'm 100% certain now that I don't understand. Can you give a concrete example of "seeing context" vs. "not seeing context"?

Seeing context: Like I have an intuitive grasp on things, or at least I think I do. The answers come to me effortlessly and I have this deep, piercing view of things, a view I cannot articulate but just is. There's like a push in this direction and a shove in another, and then a pull here, and I can make things happen.

Seeing no context: This can happen numerous ways. I stare out into space, and nothing builds for me. Different details, decontextualized, pop in and out of awareness. At other times, I am in a room or a situation, and the room or situation is simply what it is. Why this 3-dimensional object of a particular color shaped sorta like a ball is here at this spot on the ground, I do not ask; I do not even ask what it is for or what it is. Everything simply is, as if they had suddenly come into being in some random manner.

Somtimes, among a bunch of objects, one object will stand out and I will itch as I fixate on it. I do not show any interest for what it is or what its purpose is: It just bothers me. I will then pick it up in my hand and enclose it with my hands, so that it is not visible to me anymore. This relieves the itch.

Thanks for the extra explanation, beneficii.

I don't really understand all of it (most of the words just aren't translating into anything I can understand) but I can relate a bit to some of your "seeing no context" experience -- specifically the perception of random details and processing a lot of the world around me in terms of just the fundamentals of sensory info (color, shape, movement).

I don't think I understand either. I tend to see meaning in everything especially things that happen to and around me. I try to tell myself that's there's no meaning to it and things are just randomly happening but I'm not always convinced.

I think most people could see things in no context but it's the context part I'm having difficulty translating.

I don't understand what you guys are talking about at all. Maybe I don't have enough language skill to make sense of anything more than literal.

In my opinion a context is a subjective thing and if you want to see it, it's there. In an objective sense there's no context anywhere. Am I totally off what you are talking about?

This reminds me of the old saying (i'm not sure who said it), "the map is not the territory". In other words, language can paint a picture of reality that is perfectly logical and still be untrue. Language at it's core seeks to explain reality as a separate occurrence from itself, however their division is an illusion. I think I can relate to what you said about a "deep intuitive knowing", I feel this constantly. It's only when I try and verbally articulate what, or how I know something, that this intuition seems to fade. I use to fail my math classes because I couldn't show the work using the given algorithm, it seemed as if I already had came pre equiped with my own. Other students would show their steps, I never seemed to have steps to show, or at least I didn't know how to show them, and for that reason teachers often suspected I was cheating. I hated school. I still don't talk much.

Not quite. I think that I have a tendency to take an objective look at things around me. I think that normally, you have what is called first-person perspective, which is where things in your environment build up for you showing you what you can do, what you can use, how you can interact, etc., which allows things to emerge and infuses the environment with meaning (phenomenality, the central guiding light of consciousness that lets you automatically see your environment in context), and is therefore subjective to the core. I don't seem to have as strong a first-person perspective, however, because of this tendency for things to not really emerge in my perspective, instead taking a very detached objective look in which I don't really see objects as such, but just colors and shapes and details; that subjectivity is lacking unless I make an effort to really look at my environment.

I think I've always been like this, however, and I may have a stronger first-person perspective than I used to.

Do you sometimes just see a bunch of meaningless details, as opposed to a general context?

Ah, I think I know what you mean now and I can't say that I have ever seen things that way. I'm far too conscious, far too analytical to not see things in context.