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30 Jan 2014, 6:13 pm

After my first aggressive meltdown, 6 days ago
I get frustrated with thinking in words/language, it is not maintained nearly as much as before. Gaining pieces of strong sensory information without really focusing...gaining previous skills while losing a well used one.


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30 Jan 2014, 6:25 pm

what is an aggressive meltdown?



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30 Jan 2014, 7:04 pm

Being aggressive towards someone else during it.


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30 Jan 2014, 7:05 pm

i can dig how one's powers of language can leave on in a huff when one is all worked up over something.



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30 Jan 2014, 7:06 pm

You might be interested in talking to asdoggeek, who's been looking into how speaking reduces her ability to use sensory information, and not speaking increases other abilities.



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30 Jan 2014, 7:09 pm

Tuttle wrote:
You might be interested in talking to asdoggeek, who's been looking into how speaking reduces her ability to use sensory information, and not speaking increases other abilities.


I changed from not speaking to sensory before, for months.


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30 Jan 2014, 8:25 pm

Hello, I also hate thinking in words, somedays it is painful for me, I was delayed in my communication and used to be a visual sensory based thinker, then as I gained speech and became better and better at it I began to loose my visual and sensory processing and this loss has become rather disabling for me! Recently I switched to using primarily aac apps and now I'm slowly gaining back skills I lost. I actually wrote a blog post on the subject with a lot more detail.

http://autismdoggirl.blogspot.com/2014/ ... erbal.html


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30 Jan 2014, 8:44 pm

ASdogGeek. How you describe your experiences are vivid...easier for me.


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03 Feb 2014, 4:02 pm

This is increasing in duration, and temporarily separating visual information more.


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03 Feb 2014, 4:46 pm

Lumi wrote:
This is increasing in duration, and temporarily separating visual information more.



ARe you loosing visual processing

Or gaining it a,pond loosing language?


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03 Feb 2014, 7:28 pm

ASdogGeek wrote:
ARe you loosing visual processing

Or gaining it a,pond loosing language?


Gaining visual processing...awareness of sensory information is isolated (mono-channel in seeing, hearing, and balance). For example, I could clearly see the car door, though had real difficulty trying to understand different pieces of what I was seeing. No perception of "car" but seeing in a pure sensory way.


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04 Feb 2014, 12:52 am

Lumi, as hard as it is, still force yourself to think in words, in your head, and also to make an effort to speak what you are thinking inside. I'm a pattern thinker, so I know it's hard. English is a "second language" to me. But it's a good discipline. It's something all Aspies/Autists need to work on. You can even gain enough proficiency to be a good speaker and writer. You have amazing potential.

Also, it won't hurt the purity of your visual sensitivity. In fact, it will augment it.

Good luck. Peace.



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04 Feb 2014, 8:33 am

JSBACHlover wrote:
Lumi, as hard as it is, still force yourself to think in words, in your head, and also to make an effort to speak what you are thinking inside. I'm a pattern thinker, so I know it's hard. English is a "second language" to me. But it's a good discipline. It's something all Aspies/Autists need to work on. You can even gain enough proficiency to be a good speaker and writer. You have amazing potential.

Also, it won't hurt the purity of your visual sensitivity. In fact, it will augment it.

Good luck. Peace.


For some people speaking will mess up their sensory processing. Even if words and speaking are what society expects, being able to process the world, and keep yourself safe is more important than fitting in.

Why are words more important than not walking into trees? Or not walking into roads? Or being able to understand what you're seeing?

Speaking can easily mess with it and cause people to not be able to do those. Or other things can cause people to not be able to either speak or process vision.

For many of us its a balancing act, which things do I use, which do I augment, which do I avoid. But its about safety, because just acting like society expects us to is not safe, even if we could technically get away without using any adaptive equipment.



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04 Feb 2014, 10:06 am

Tuttle wrote:
JSBACHlover wrote:
Lumi, as hard as it is, still force yourself to think in words, in your head, and also to make an effort to speak what you are thinking inside. I'm a pattern thinker, so I know it's hard. English is a "second language" to me. But it's a good discipline. It's something all Aspies/Autists need to work on. You can even gain enough proficiency to be a good speaker and writer. You have amazing potential.

Also, it won't hurt the purity of your visual sensitivity. In fact, it will augment it.

Good luck. Peace.


For some people speaking will mess up their sensory processing. Even if words and speaking are what society expects, being able to process the world, and keep yourself safe is more important than fitting in.

Why are words more important than not walking into trees? Or not walking into roads? Or being able to understand what you're seeing?

Speaking can easily mess with it and cause people to not be able to do those. Or other things can cause people to not be able to either speak or process vision.

For many of us its a balancing act, which things do I use, which do I augment, which do I avoid. But its about safety, because just acting like society expects us to is not safe, even if we could technically get away without using any adaptive equipment.



I have to agree here as this is very much the cSe for me! I occasional allocate my resources to speech but have become prodominantly nonverbal


This for me is directly related to my ability to cpfunction and safety, as ass mood and anxiety to be honest. See blog post I shared for more I depth explination


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04 Feb 2014, 1:30 pm

My ability to write about my experiences has shocked those who initially thought I had limited language.

I am primarily a verbal thinker. Though lately thinking in words to sort things causes headaches, exhaustion, and further mono-channeling to the point I have to really work just to process my surroundings. Not able to coordinate speech before.


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04 Feb 2014, 3:32 pm

I'm trying to process some of your responses.

Is speaking really that hard for you? If it is, I am truly sorry for not understanding your situation. Forgive me because I can only see the words you type. I have no idea how you are with words you speak.

I do believe, in my heart of hearts, that every autistic person can learn, at the very least, to "move in the direction" of this planet. I did. I started 23 years ago when I was 22 and had just graduated from the safety of university. It's been hard work ever since then, and it's been terribly painful. But it's been worth it.

One of the reasons why I'm on WP is to encourage people. I've never met a person on a WP forum that I wouldn't like to meet in real life....