04 Feb 2014, 9:59 am
04 Feb 2014, 10:15 am
04 Feb 2014, 10:21 am
04 Feb 2014, 10:26 am
I'm this way as well, but I always remind myself not to go too far in to it, otherwise Jigsaw will get me. XD
(Saw III, a man undergoes a 'test' due to living for vengeance.)
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04 Feb 2014, 10:52 am
I used to feel the same way, and what helps me is a spiritual belief that they will answer for what they've done. But without that, I'm not sure how I would be able to let it go. 
04 Feb 2014, 11:07 am
04 Feb 2014, 11:54 am
04 Feb 2014, 3:16 pm
beneficii wrote:
Ever since I was a kid and somebody crossed me, I always wanted the power to make them regret it.
But, you see, they won't ever "regret" hurting you, because they'll never acknowledge a connection between the two actions, and in large measure, they're right. There is no real connection, in spite of what you may tell yourself. Each negative act is an individual evil, no matter how you justify it.
If you do something to them, it may be due to their original sin against you IN YOUR MIND, but that's your imagination because your retaliation is not going to erase or 'balance out' the pain you're feeling.
In actual reality, it's just one human being (in this case you) hurting another for their own malicious satisfaction - making YOU the very bully that you hate.
The only solution to violence (physical or psychological) is non-violence. Nothing else will stop the endless chain of negative events. When you respond to hatefulness with hatefulness, you are only willfully absorbing the infection.
Ultimately, it's more satisfying to step back from the ugliness and let karma exact it's own justice. Your soul stays clean, and bad people always trip over their own tails sooner or later anyway, or step on the toes of somebody even meaner than themselves.
OTOH, don't take all that to mean that I'm telling you not to shoot someone who's trying to kill you. I don't recommend taking a fatal beating for the sake of principle.
04 Feb 2014, 3:23 pm
Almost everyone who has ever really hurt me in my life thus far, is either dead or their lives have been ruined.
God will take vengeance, so there is no need to carry a grudge. 
04 Feb 2014, 8:30 pm
Willard wrote:
beneficii wrote:
Ever since I was a kid and somebody crossed me, I always wanted the power to make them regret it.
But, you see, they won't ever "regret" hurting you, because they'll never acknowledge a connection between the two actions, and in large measure, they're right. There is no real connection, in spite of what you may tell yourself. Each negative act is an individual evil, no matter how you justify it.
If you do something to them, it may be due to their original sin against you IN YOUR MIND, but that's your imagination because your retaliation is not going to erase or 'balance out' the pain you're feeling.
In actual reality, it's just one human being (in this case you) hurting another for their own malicious satisfaction - making YOU the very bully that you hate.
That's what I was going to say. Living well is the best revenge because you can never make them sorry and often can't even make them comprehend that they treated you badly. You can make the jealous though!
The only solution to violence (physical or psychological) is non-violence. Nothing else will stop the endless chain of negative events. When you respond to hatefulness with hatefulness, you are only willfully absorbing the infection.
Ultimately, it's more satisfying to step back from the ugliness and let karma exact it's own justice. Your soul stays clean, and bad people always trip over their own tails sooner or later anyway, or step on the toes of somebody even meaner than themselves.
OTOH, don't take all that to mean that I'm telling you not to shoot someone who's trying to kill you. I don't recommend taking a fatal beating for the sake of principle.
06 Feb 2014, 12:10 pm
Willard wrote:
beneficii wrote:
Ever since I was a kid and somebody crossed me, I always wanted the power to make them regret it.
But, you see, they won't ever "regret" hurting you, because they'll never acknowledge a connection between the two actions, and in large measure, they're right. There is no real connection, in spite of what you may tell yourself. Each negative act is an individual evil, no matter how you justify it.
If you do something to them, it may be due to their original sin against you IN YOUR MIND, but that's your imagination because your retaliation is not going to erase or 'balance out' the pain you're feeling.
In actual reality, it's just one human being (in this case you) hurting another for their own malicious satisfaction - making YOU the very bully that you hate.
The only solution to violence (physical or psychological) is non-violence. Nothing else will stop the endless chain of negative events. When you respond to hatefulness with hatefulness, you are only willfully absorbing the infection.
Ultimately, it's more satisfying to step back from the ugliness and let karma exact it's own justice. Your soul stays clean, and bad people always trip over their own tails sooner or later anyway, or step on the toes of somebody even meaner than themselves.
OTOH, don't take all that to mean that I'm telling you not to shoot someone who's trying to kill you. I don't recommend taking a fatal beating for the sake of principle.
What would you have me do? Just implode? You see, ever since I was a kid, I did have some internalization symptoms, but it was clear I was never someone who would just implode. I was an externalizer, too; I made sure to leave my mark on the external world were I troubled by something.
My way of externalizing it, without doing anything, is to express this hate to myself. It prevents me from imploding.
06 Feb 2014, 12:24 pm
06 Feb 2014, 1:02 pm
Willard wrote:
beneficii wrote:
Ever since I was a kid and somebody crossed me, I always wanted the power to make them regret it.
But, you see, they won't ever "regret" hurting you, because they'll never acknowledge a connection between the two actions, and in large measure, they're right. There is no real connection, in spite of what you may tell yourself. Each negative act is an individual evil, no matter how you justify it.
If you do something to them, it may be due to their original sin against you IN YOUR MIND, but that's your imagination because your retaliation is not going to erase or 'balance out' the pain you're feeling.
In actual reality, it's just one human being (in this case you) hurting another for their own malicious satisfaction - making YOU the very bully that you hate.
The only solution to violence (physical or psychological) is non-violence. Nothing else will stop the endless chain of negative events. When you respond to hatefulness with hatefulness, you are only willfully absorbing the infection.
Ultimately, it's more satisfying to step back from the ugliness and let karma exact it's own justice. Your soul stays clean, and bad people always trip over their own tails sooner or later anyway, or step on the toes of somebody even meaner than themselves.
OTOH, don't take all that to mean that I'm telling you not to shoot someone who's trying to kill you. I don't recommend taking a fatal beating for the sake of principle.
Willard has a point there and retribution does just tend to fuel the nastiness.
Better to let it drop.
06 Feb 2014, 1:04 pm
bumble wrote:
Willard wrote:
beneficii wrote:
Ever since I was a kid and somebody crossed me, I always wanted the power to make them regret it.
But, you see, they won't ever "regret" hurting you, because they'll never acknowledge a connection between the two actions, and in large measure, they're right. There is no real connection, in spite of what you may tell yourself. Each negative act is an individual evil, no matter how you justify it.
If you do something to them, it may be due to their original sin against you IN YOUR MIND, but that's your imagination because your retaliation is not going to erase or 'balance out' the pain you're feeling.
In actual reality, it's just one human being (in this case you) hurting another for their own malicious satisfaction - making YOU the very bully that you hate.
The only solution to violence (physical or psychological) is non-violence. Nothing else will stop the endless chain of negative events. When you respond to hatefulness with hatefulness, you are only willfully absorbing the infection.
Ultimately, it's more satisfying to step back from the ugliness and let karma exact it's own justice. Your soul stays clean, and bad people always trip over their own tails sooner or later anyway, or step on the toes of somebody even meaner than themselves.
OTOH, don't take all that to mean that I'm telling you not to shoot someone who's trying to kill you. I don't recommend taking a fatal beating for the sake of principle.
Willard has a point there and retribution does just tend to fuel the nastiness.
Better to let it drop.
You can't just let it drop when the metaphorical jackboot keeps pounding your face.
06 Feb 2014, 1:08 pm
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