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17 Feb 2014, 10:42 am

I like to use the term neuroatypical to describe myself because I don't think I'm autistic or NT. I


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17 Feb 2014, 10:58 am

Neutral the term is still long.


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17 Feb 2014, 10:59 am

It's similar to "Neurodivergent".

"Neurotypical" and "Neurodivergent" are vagus terms.
I also dislike how people are using the term (Neurotypical= Non-Autistic; Neurodivergent= Autistic). They are incorrect. I prefer "Autistic" and "Allistic".

In you case (Allistic and, posible, with a undiagnosed mental condition) I think it's accurate to use "Neurodivergent". In case you don't have a mental condition, you must use "Neurotypical".



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17 Feb 2014, 11:14 am

I really dislike the term neurotypical, because other neurological paradigms exist besides "autistic" and "non-autistic." To give an example, my non-autistic sister has severe epilepsy. Her frequent seizures arguably have more of an impact on her life than ASD has on mine. By the standards of this board, she is extremely NT: she is intensely social, loves chitchat, makes eye contact with strangers, has no special interests or unusual habits, and is extremely graceful and poised. She works in high-end retail (a career that would be closed to most of us, me included) and is very good at her job. However, her brain is probably at least as divergent from the norm as mine is. Therefore, I don't think it would be accurate to refer to her as NT, even though she is most assuredly not autistic.
I do, however, find myself using the term NT on this board, just because it has become the standard term for "non-autistic."



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17 Feb 2014, 11:16 am

I'm not talking about the term neurotypical. I'm talking about the term neuroatypical.


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17 Feb 2014, 11:30 am

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(Neurotypical= Non-Autistic; Neurodivergent= Autistic).


I believe this term is inaccurate (and irksome in my opinion), because NT and ASD aren't the only types of people. That is why ''neurodiverse'' is the best term, because a person can be non-NT but have some other mental condition other than Autism or Asperger's.


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17 Feb 2014, 1:01 pm

Not really. It looks too much like neurotypical to me, and I can get the two mixed up sometimes if they're in the same sentence.

I'm not really sure which term I prefer in place of neuroatypical, though.
Probably autistic and allistic for referring to whether someone is on the spectrum or not, and neurodivergent for people who aren't neurotypical, but aren't autistic either. Does that make sense?



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17 Feb 2014, 1:53 pm

I prefer the term, neurodiversity. It includes everybody.


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17 Feb 2014, 4:13 pm

It seems that the mere letters NT generates a lot of hared and negative stigma on this site, but that's just like people saying bad things about people who are autistic. :(
I thought at first it meant "normal type", but that's very broad and I know from experience that some non-autistic people make any member of The Addams Family look normal! :lol:



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18 Feb 2014, 4:15 am

sometimes see it (and NT) as kind of a made up term that is often used as a pejorative (woo big word)



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18 Feb 2014, 5:32 am

Joe90 wrote:
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(Neurotypical= Non-Autistic; Neurodivergent= Autistic).


I believe this term is inaccurate (and irksome in my opinion), because NT and ASD aren't the only types of people. That is why ''neurodiverse'' is the best term, because a person can be non-NT but have some other mental condition other than Autism or Asperger's.


That's my point. The text inbrackets is the (wrong) way in which the terms are used.



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18 Feb 2014, 6:16 am

Joe90 wrote:
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(Neurotypical= Non-Autistic; Neurodivergent= Autistic).


I believe this term is inaccurate (and irksome in my opinion), because NT and ASD aren't the only types of people. That is why ''neurodiverse'' is the best term, because a person can be non-NT but have some other mental condition other than Autism or Asperger's.


Neurodiverse describes a group of people. Neurodivergent shouldn't just describe an autistic person - several other conditions (dyslexia, ADHD, etc) fit the criteria as well. So NT should be someone who does not have those things.

I mean I agree with you, just grammatically describing a single person as neurodiverse bugs me.



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18 Feb 2014, 6:50 am

Verdandi wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
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(Neurotypical= Non-Autistic; Neurodivergent= Autistic).


I believe this term is inaccurate (and irksome in my opinion), because NT and ASD aren't the only types of people. That is why ''neurodiverse'' is the best term, because a person can be non-NT but have some other mental condition other than Autism or Asperger's.


Neurodiverse describes a group of people. Neurodivergent shouldn't just describe an autistic person - several other conditions (dyslexia, ADHD, etc) fit the criteria as well. So NT should be someone who does not have those things.

I mean I agree with you, just grammatically describing a single person as neurodiverse bugs me.


I wonder what we would consider those with psychiatric illnesses. Some illnesses, such as schizophrenia and bipolar I disorder are seen as having major neurodevelopmental underpinnings, almost as if they themselves could be considered to be neurodevelopmental disorders.


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18 Feb 2014, 7:17 am

I just use Aspergers - people get it, then explain it means I am "neurologically atypical - which means my brain does not necessarily function according to the standard mean) and if they want more details I give them


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18 Feb 2014, 7:40 am

Seems most teens i know of have a basic understanding of aspergers, and seem to know someone who has it



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18 Feb 2014, 9:56 am

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I really dislike the term neurotypical, because other neurological paradigms exist besides "autistic" and "non-autistic." To give an example, my non-autistic sister has severe epilepsy. Her frequent seizures arguably have more of an impact on her life than ASD has on mine. By the standards of this board, she is extremely NT: she is intensely social, loves chitchat, makes eye contact with strangers, has no special interests or unusual habits, and is extremely graceful and poised. She works in high-end retail (a career that would be closed to most of us, me included) and is very good at her job. However, her brain is probably at least as divergent from the norm as mine is. Therefore, I don't think it would be accurate to refer to her as NT, even though she is most assuredly not autistic.


I wouldn't call her NT. You don't have to be autistic to be non-NT.

I like the term neurodivergent for the opposite of NT. It sounds and looks more distinct than neuroatypical, and it has its own acronym - ND.

As for the opposite of autistic, that's allistic. And you can be allistic and not NT, if you have epilepsy or Down Syndrome or any of the myriad of other conditions out there that affect the brain but are not part of the autism spectrum.

Also, I like the term 'cousin' for people who aren't quite autistic, but have overlapping traits. For example, people with schizophrenia.