Why is this the case?

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When I go out to pubs/nightclubs and bars in my hometown or other towns I never EVER see people who by society's standards do not conform to society 'norm'. For instance people with odd gaits, Down syndrome, in wheelchairs. I see people with Down syndrome, mental health problems and in wheelchairs all the time during the day in my local towns high street, shopping malls and resturants yet I never see them amongst young people in night clubs or bars at nighttime. Infact I must be the only 'odd' person in a bar setting. Sure you get eccentric people in bars but you never seem to see people who may seriously 'appear' like there is something physically or mentally wrong with them?


So how come you never see these people in these kind of settings?

I live in the south of England by the way

Maybe they just don't enjoy that sort of thing. I'd rather get a root canal than go out to a nightclub or bar (a very quiet pub maybe). I just can't stand the noise and the environment.

That's not the reason.

Why don't you ask them when you see them on the street? Then let us know what they say because now I'm interested.

Nightclubs, and bars, are not devoid of social deviants.

They may not attract people who deviate in a physically visual way (ie go around in wheelchairs, or have downs syndrome), but other kinds of nonstandard behaving people do like the night life: LBGT's, for example, and alcholics (not that Im saying gayness is as bad as substence abuse, or alcholism- but that they all are nonstandard behavior in the eyes of society). And many other types as well.

People with disabilities aren't generally seen in "NT" places, because it can be overwhelming. They may find enjoyment in other things, but that's not to say you won't see someone there.

People with Down Syndrome often have carers, well, pretty much guaranteed that someone with Down Syndrome has a carer somewhere in their life, and it's not the type of place a carer wants to take their client to look after them. It's not really an appropriate place where the person can keep a watchful eye of anything happening, plus bars and clubs always have some drunk person trying to pick a fight with someone. I certainly wouldn't want to take a vulnerable person there who was under my care.

I can't ever remember seeing wheelchair access in a night club.

I have seen it in pubs though, like the Weatherspoons.

Because most people who go to bars and nightclubs want to showcase themselves as being physically attractive. It's a meat market for single people or people who want to cheat on their partners to meet potential dates or hook-ups. Even people who just go out to get drunk or dance want to look good while they are doing it.

You're asking the question backwards.
Why do people go to those places?

When you answer that, you can ask whether the people you mentioned are likely to have a similar outcome as the people you do see there.

for example:
If people go to dance, how likely is it that someone in a wheelchair will get the same experience as "normal" people?
If people go to socialize, how likely is it that someone with Downs will feel they get the same experience?
If people go to drink alcohol, how likely is it that someone taking fistfulls of meds would think that's a safe idea?

not all DS adults have carers,personaly know a number of DS adults who live independantly and have jobs to, then there are people with mosaic syndrome which blurs the DS-NT line even further.


as for original topic,there are many 'proper' club nights in the UK laid on for people with learning [intelectual] disabilities such as checkers and frogtastic@the frog & bucket/comedy club in manchester.
personaly know many people with varying disabilities who go to mainstream clubs,but most have had issues with bouncers assuming theyre pissed up normies and are refused entry.

a lot of clubs dont have proper wheelchair access which is another problem in itself as they dont meet the DDA/ equality act standards but seem to get away with it, perhaps because they are listed/protected buildings and cant have lifts built in.

am a wheelchair user as well as the rest of the crap and woud give anything to go see proper DJs play like pete tong and steve lawler,but aquired profound hyperacusis put a stop to that,maybe one day and will be armed with a copy of the DDA to smack them on the nose if am refused entry for discriminatory reasons.