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05 Mar 2014, 4:29 pm

I know that moderate autism usually involves some speech delay / difficulty and probably learning disabilities / difficulties.

But what exactly are the other differences between moderate autism and AS / mild autism?

I'd like a list or something similar of the differences.


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05 Mar 2014, 7:09 pm

in the UK,classic autism is considered a learning disability [USA=intelectual disability] in itself because everyone bar HFAs have ID,and HFA is now days merged into AS.

moderate autism has moderate challenging behavior, the UK definition of mild or moderate learning disability [the USA definition being mild or moderate intelectual disability], quite significant communication and language difficulties but functional basic; this is due to their autism not mutism;cannot live independantly due to functioning and effect of autism on themselves and living environment but may live in supported living with full time care;generaly on one to one support.
educational wise, the moderately classic autistic person may access the special needs based courses in a mainstream college although many are students at special colleges,no moderately classic autistic person woud have the capacity to attend UK definition of university;for mental capacity,autism and challenging behavior reasons.


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05 Mar 2014, 11:42 pm

Does challenging behavior count as hurting self too since 12 years old?

With trouble understanding speech or using speech I may be violent to others. I always have trouble doing important things for my age, self is often behind in those...need a lot of structure and pictures for steps.


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06 Mar 2014, 2:23 am

Just wondering. Thanks.


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06 Mar 2014, 7:10 am

Well, it's a little bit of a gray area to me.
People who read my posts would probably figure I have mild autism.
People who meet me in real life for the first time would probably think I have closer to severe autism.
I'm mainly nonverbal.
I look inattentive when I'm listening to people.
Def have learning disabilities.
Have to have someone with me at all times when out someplace or will get lost and maybe step into traffic.
I think my meltdowns are probably more frequent and more severe.
I am probably a lot more leery of people when at a mall or someplace like that.
But at the same time kind of oblivious to things around me.
More difficult to handle. Like if I am driven someplace, like a casual get together at someone's
house I might lock up with fear and refuse to get out of the car and we have to go back home.
I can't do buttons very well, or tie shoes etc. Tend to put stuff on backwards or inside out, so
it is usually easier and quicker just to dress me, even though technically can do it on my own.
In a lot of ways I am like a 13 year old toddler, I need a lot of assistance and supervision in areas.
I have to have an assigned helper at school to make sure I get to classes and have what I need.
Etc.

But with all that, I am not severely autistic. But I am also not mildly autistic either.
Hope that explains it good. Still figuring out parameters myself.

Lumi wrote:
Does challenging behavior count as hurting self too since 12 years old?

With trouble understanding speech or using speech I may be violent to others. I always have trouble doing important things for my age, self is often behind in those...need a lot of structure and pictures for steps.


Yeah lots of that too. Picture panels on doing everyday stuff for getting ready for bed and getting ready for school etc. The joke is, cause yeah we can laugh about it some, is my shoes should have TGIF written on them for
Toes Go In First lol.
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06 Mar 2014, 11:39 am

Yeah, mine is switching words for objects, like saying radio instead of fast forward.
Emotions control my speech...depending on the day, I may not talk much. I love certain sensory things...deep pressure on me, watching slow lights and feeling vibrations (not on hands). Only been called high-functioning because my intelligence shows in written words, and talk fairly well. Through my sensory, living and communication difficulties is where you can see most.


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06 Mar 2014, 2:12 pm

"Mild" autism like "mild" anything is something that happens to another person :wink:


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07 Mar 2014, 12:18 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
"Mild" autism like "mild" anything is something that happens to another person :wink:
Cannot understand


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07 Mar 2014, 1:01 am

Lumi wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
"Mild" autism like "mild" anything is something that happens to another person :wink:
Cannot understand

I think he's saying that mildly autistic people don't annoy NTs as much.


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07 Mar 2014, 6:37 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
Lumi wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
"Mild" autism like "mild" anything is something that happens to another person :wink:
Cannot understand

I think he's saying that mildly autistic people don't annoy NTs as much.

I think he means that people easily consider others' problems mild. ...Or that he has severe autism among other problems. :?:
(Wow we are no good at this, Captain NT, help us out!)



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07 Mar 2014, 6:41 pm

Uh... double post, sorry. :oops:



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07 Mar 2014, 7:31 pm

I've seen anbuend reference people who would be categorized as LFA who had university degrees, although since I can't point to any specifics this only comes down to recollection. I could ask her about it, though.



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07 Mar 2014, 7:47 pm

Lovemuffin wrote:
DevilKisses wrote:
Lumi wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
"Mild" autism like "mild" anything is something that happens to another person :wink:
Cannot understand

I think he's saying that mildly autistic people don't annoy NTs as much.

I think he means that people easily consider others' problems mild. ...Or that he has severe autism among other problems. :?:
(Wow we are no good at this, Captain NT, help us out!)

That's kind of what I was saying. Most people don't consider other people's problems severe, unless it affects them as well. A lot of LFA people have difficult behaviors that affect everyone. HFA people don't have as many difficult behaviors even though they still struggle a lot.


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08 Mar 2014, 1:36 am

[quote="Lumi"]Yeah, mine is switching words for objects.
Ugh. I do that sometimes too. Not just for objects, but ajectives and verbs as well. Sometimes I'll be thinking of a totally unrelated topic while conversating and I'll throw in a word related to what I'm thinking about. The looks I get for this are priceless :lol:



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08 Mar 2014, 5:13 am

DevilKisses wrote:
Lovemuffin wrote:
DevilKisses wrote:
Lumi wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
"Mild" autism like "mild" anything is something that happens to another person :wink:
Cannot understand

I think he's saying that mildly autistic people don't annoy NTs as much.

I think he means that people easily consider others' problems mild. ...Or that he has severe autism among other problems. :?:
(Wow we are no good at this, Captain NT, help us out!)

That's kind of what I was saying. Most people don't consider other people's problems severe, unless it affects them as well. A lot of LFA people have difficult behaviors that affect everyone. HFA people don't have as many difficult behaviors even though they still struggle a lot.


Just read kingdomofrats blog, I hadn't realized just how awesome this person was until I did. Read the stuff from september and december in particular and you'll see like I did that people on the LFA side of the spectrum can have some difficulties that would scare the s**t out of me. I've never had to work past things like that to achieve what I have and I don't doubt for a second that my own willpower isn't even comparable because my own symptoms aren't nearly as unpleasant. Pretty awesome, inspiring stuff and I honestly teared up after reading it.


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08 Mar 2014, 5:32 am

DevilKisses wrote:
A lot of LFA people have difficult behaviors that affect everyone. HFA people don't have as many difficult behaviors even though they still struggle a lot.


A lot of it comes down to maintenance I think and what kind.
How much supervision the person needs. I need the supervision
of like a 3 to 5 year old many ways when away from home.
At home am safe and can be left unsupervised. My meltdowns are
probably the toughest thing for my family to deal with. Usually curl
up in a ball and make loud noises but sometimes go completely ballistic
and it can happen anywhere at anytime. Am real real close to getting kicked
out of public school because of it.