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10 Mar 2014, 8:34 pm

While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


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10 Mar 2014, 8:38 pm

Ok



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10 Mar 2014, 8:50 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


quasi-aspie,they have aspie traits,but not actual have ASD.



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10 Mar 2014, 9:01 pm

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While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


quasi-aspie,they have aspie traits,but not actual have ASD.

I don't even think they should be considered Aspie traits. I think they should just be seen for what they are.


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10 Mar 2014, 9:06 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
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DevilKisses wrote:
While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


quasi-aspie,they have aspie traits,but not actual have ASD.

I don't even think they should be considered Aspie traits. I think they should just be seen for what they are.


weird nt's you would call them?



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10 Mar 2014, 9:29 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.

Actually, I believe that only the autistic socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted people are on the spectrum.
Everyone else is just socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted.
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10 Mar 2014, 10:22 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
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While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


quasi-aspie,they have aspie traits,but not actual have ASD.

I don't even think they should be considered Aspie traits. I think they should just be seen for what they are.


Yeah, simply because people have those personality traits doesn't mean they share in genuinely autistic symptoms. Those same personality traits can stem from totally different symptoms or just be incidental to the development of their personalities.


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10 Mar 2014, 10:29 pm

There is something called the Broad Autism Phenotype which includes individuals whose personalities do not meet all the diagnostic criteria for ASD.



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10 Mar 2014, 11:41 pm

I agree.

You can have a personality that appears to reflect autism, and not have autism. Simply because an individual's brain isn't 'autistic' doesn't mean they can't be 'wired' to live in the similar manner in which they do.


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10 Mar 2014, 11:51 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


Could you tell us who here has said "every socially awkward, nerdy..." person is on the autism spectrum?

I've never noticed anyone saying that.

I'm also concerned about a relatively young person with no medical background thinking they're in a position to say who is and isn't on the spectrum. The people who diagnose (in particular those who specialize) do have a good measure of training.


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11 Mar 2014, 12:12 am

Sethno wrote:
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While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


Could you tell us who here has said "every socially awkward, nerdy..." person is on the autism spectrum?

I've never noticed anyone saying that.

I'm also concerned about a relatively young person with no medical background thinking they're in a position to say who is and isn't on the spectrum. The people who diagnose (in particular those who specialize) do have a good measure of training.

I often notice this on the "Am I autistic?" threads. I don't think my age has anything to do with this. I notice that a lot of people on here have this naive idea that their life would have been so much better if the were diagnosed as a child.


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11 Mar 2014, 12:33 am

DevilKisses wrote:
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While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


Could you tell us who here has said "every socially awkward, nerdy..." person is on the autism spectrum?

I've never noticed anyone saying that.

I'm also concerned about a relatively young person with no medical background thinking they're in a position to say who is and isn't on the spectrum. The people who diagnose (in particular those who specialize) do have a good measure of training.

I often notice this on the "Am I autistic?" threads. I don't think my age has anything to do with this. I notice that a lot of people on here have this naive idea that their life would have been so much better if the were diagnosed as a child.


Strictly speaking, they probably would have; they would have had access to services and help from a much younger age, as well as the support and understanding of their family that a lot of later-diagnosed aspies didn't have growing up. Mostly they were just seen as shy kids, or kind of weird, or worse, badly behaved. Their symptoms would probably have improved with early intervention that they lost out on not being diagnosed when young. My mother first noticed autistic signs in me when I was eight, but due to financial reasons, never got me diagnosed. I've always wished she had done, it would have made my childhood a lot easier.


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11 Mar 2014, 1:03 am

StarTrekker wrote:
DevilKisses wrote:
Sethno wrote:
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While I agree with this, I'm also a little bit skeptical about how wide the spectrum is. I don't believe that every single socially awkward, nerdy, sensitive, analytical, obsessive, eccentric and introverted person is on the spectrum like a lot of people here seem to believe.


Could you tell us who here has said "every socially awkward, nerdy..." person is on the autism spectrum?

I've never noticed anyone saying that.

I'm also concerned about a relatively young person with no medical background thinking they're in a position to say who is and isn't on the spectrum. The people who diagnose (in particular those who specialize) do have a good measure of training.

I often notice this on the "Am I autistic?" threads. I don't think my age has anything to do with this. I notice that a lot of people on here have this naive idea that their life would have been so much better if the were diagnosed as a child.


Strictly speaking, they probably would have; they would have had access to services and help from a much younger age, as well as the support and understanding of their family that a lot of later-diagnosed aspies didn't have growing up. Mostly they were just seen as shy kids, or kind of weird, or worse, badly behaved. Their symptoms would probably have improved with early intervention that they lost out on not being diagnosed when young. My mother first noticed autistic signs in me when I was eight, but due to financial reasons, never got me diagnosed. I've always wished she had done, it would have made my childhood a lot easier.

All this is assuming that all diagnoses are correct, having a label will actually help people understand you and that services are effective. Not everyone that is diagnosed with autism is autistic just like not everyone diagnosed with any mental disorder actually has that disorder.

Most of the people who knew about my diagnosis treated me like I was half my age. I still have a lot of psychological problems because of that. I probably would have graduated by now if I hadn't been diagnosed.

Services weren't that helpful either. Most of the services involved being stuffed into a room with lower functioning kids. You have no idea how crappy it is to be put into the same group as them.


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11 Mar 2014, 2:32 am

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Most of the services involved being stuffed into a room with lower functioning kids. You have no idea how crappy it is to be put into the same group as them.

>them<?
are we a different species to HFAs or something?

it doesnt explain the intolerance but can partly understand the resentful attitude if were held back by being in a service that hadnt been tailored for EVERYONES needs,AKA individual learning plans,or if it was a highly challenging/violent/noisy environment and it wasnt properly managed, however ....that doesnt mean it is the fault of the individuals in those special needs classes- that is actualy the fault of the school and am guessing the BoE for not funding better services, it is hypocritical and ignorant to be resentful to the lf students whilst in the same post complaining about not being accomodated as a hf,those students have just as much right to an education as anyone else,be pissed off at those who make decisions about services instead.

learn to be tolerant of other people who cant help their disabilities;especialy people who are more vulnerable than self and dont need any more resentfulness than they will get already for being LF, and get parents involved if the school isnt up to standard with education-campaign for better services.


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11 Mar 2014, 4:42 am

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Most of the services involved being stuffed into a room with lower functioning kids. You have no idea how crappy it is to be put into the same group as them.

>them<?
are we a different species to HFAs or something?



I don't think she meant to come off as offensive, I think her point was that she does not need the support or guidance she's apparently forced to get as a result of having a diagnosis.


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11 Mar 2014, 4:49 am

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>them<?
are we a different species to HFAs or something?


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