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11 Apr 2014, 11:33 pm

The way people react to things at times is baffling. My brother-in-law is a huge professional wrestling fan. I'm not into it, but I'll humor him by watching it now and then. On Tuesday the Ultimate Warrior died. I don't know much about wrestling, but I know the guy was considered a legend in the industry. When my brother-in-law heard, he broke down into tears.

Now, I get that a guy died young and left behind a wife and two young daughters. That's sad and terrible for that family. But to be so emotionally moved by the death of someone you don't even know? Maybe it's because I've never been one to cry over the loss of those even closest to me. When my grandma and grandpa passed away I was deeply saddened, but I didn't express it much through tears. But now here's a guy breaking down over the death of someone he knows knows by the character he portrays on television? I'm baffled...

I don't know if it's more of an NT thing, but I don't get the celebrity obsessions. Yeah, they entertain us on the big and small screens, but I don't really give much of a f*** about their personal lives. Aren't there more important things in this world to worry/obsess over?

So, which of us is the weird one? My brother-in-law for mourning the death of a stranger or me for thinking such a reaction is absurd?



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12 Apr 2014, 12:34 am

I'll admit I've cried over celebrity deaths before, they just held a special place in my heart and a death can bring a lot of emotions to surface. It's not easy to see a childhood hero die, it feels like part of yourself dying as well. I remember I broke down after Steve Irwin's death, as a child I idolized the guy. They have families that they leave behind too.

I'm a actually big pro-wrestling fan to this day, a lot of people think it's stupid and sometimes it is but so is almost every form of entertainment. Are True Blood and Game of Thrones any more intellectual? I don't think so. Wrestlers are amazing athletes that sacrifice their bodies to preform and live on the road a grueling 300 days a year. The dark side is tho that so many of these wrestlers die young, they destroy their bodies and most have nothing to show for it by the time they're done. The movie The Wrestler is actually pretty good portrayal of how life is like for a lot of these guys after their time on the big show.

Warrior's passing came as a pretty big shock. He had actually been inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame that weekend, appeared at Wrestlemania XXX, and made his first appearance on Monday Night Raw in 17 years, less than 24 hours later he was dead. When Warrior left the WWF in 1996, him and Vince McMahon did not part amicably and did not reconcile until this year. His return to the "WWE Universe" is something a lot of fans have anticipated for a long time now, something Macho Man Randy Savage(who died suddenly as well a few years ago_ unfortunately never got a chance to do



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12 Apr 2014, 1:08 am

I hope I didn't come off as rude, Jacoby. I'm aware of much of what you wrote. I don't mean to condemn or demean pro wrestling either. I'm a big Game if Thrones fan, but I'm not going to say that it's a more worthwhile form of entertainment than wrestling.

I dunno. I guess I never really idolized any celebrity personality so I can't relate much to those who do. Like I said, I do feel for the guy's family and think it's tragic that this all happened on the heels of his induction and Wrestlemania 30 and all. I just think I'd feel the same reading about a 50 year old killed in a car crash leaving behind his wife and kids. I never have understood the celebrity appeal.

Tangential, but I am a big Darren Aronofsky fan and thought The Wrestler was an awesome movie.



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12 Apr 2014, 1:19 am

I think I cried a little bit when Mr. Rogers and Jimmy Stewart died.



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12 Apr 2014, 2:42 am

Arcnarenth wrote:
I hope I didn't come off as rude, Jacoby. I'm aware of much of what you wrote. I don't mean to condemn or demean pro wrestling either. I'm a big Game if Thrones fan, but I'm not going to say that it's a more worthwhile form of entertainment than wrestling.

I dunno. I guess I never really idolized any celebrity personality so I can't relate much to those who do. Like I said, I do feel for the guy's family and think it's tragic that this all happened on the heels of his induction and Wrestlemania 30 and all. I just think I'd feel the same reading about a 50 year old killed in a car crash leaving behind his wife and kids. I never have understood the celebrity appeal.

Tangential, but I am a big Darren Aronofsky fan and thought The Wrestler was an awesome movie.


I guess you just feel like you know them on some level, also sometimes someone can mean something to you without you knowing them personally the same way a place could hold a special meaning to you. You're brother in law probably grew up watching wrestling so it probably brings back a lot of memories. Some random person dying especially before their time, is a tragedy as well and it hurts me to hear about it but I didn't know the person even existed before so it's hard for it to seem real.

Warrior addressed the fans in his final appearance

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No WWE talent becomes a legend on their own. Every man's heart one day beats its final beat. His lungs breathe a final breath. And if what that man did in his life makes the blood pulse through the body of others, and makes them bleed deeper, and something larger than life, then his essence, his spirit, will be immortalized. By the storytellers, by the loyalty, by the memory of those who honor him and make the running the man did live forever.

You, you, you, you, you, you are the legend-makers of Ultimate Warrior. In the back, I see many potential legends, some of them with warrior spirits. And you will do the same for them. You will decide if they lived with the passion and intensity. So much so that you will tell your stories and you will make them legends, as well. I am Ultimate Warrior. You are the Ultimate Warrior fans. And the spirit of Ultimate Warrior will run forever!



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12 Apr 2014, 3:04 am

Arcnarenth wrote:
The way people react to things at times is baffling. My brother-in-law is a huge professional wrestling fan. I'm not into it, but I'll humor him by watching it now and then. On Tuesday the Ultimate Warrior died. I don't know much about wrestling, but I know the guy was considered a legend in the industry. When my brother-in-law heard, he broke down into tears.

Now, I get that a guy died young and left behind a wife and two young daughters. That's sad and terrible for that family. But to be so emotionally moved by the death of someone you don't even know? Maybe it's because I've never been one to cry over the loss of those even closest to me. When my grandma and grandpa passed away I was deeply saddened, but I didn't express it much through tears. But now here's a guy breaking down over the death of someone he knows knows by the character he portrays on television? I'm baffled...

I don't know if it's more of an NT thing, but I don't get the celebrity obsessions. Yeah, they entertain us on the big and small screens, but I don't really give much of a f*** about their personal lives. Aren't there more important things in this world to worry/obsess over?

So, which of us is the weird one? My brother-in-law for mourning the death of a stranger or me for thinking such a reaction is absurd?


As a wrestling fan your brother in law probably knew warrior from more than just wrestling matches. Ultimate warrior did a lot of videos on YouTube just talking like a regular guy. He was very open about his life. I don't think I could even equate warrior to something like a television or a movie celebrity because yes, he had his stage persona, but he also never hid the real him. On top of that he was just a good guy. I have to admit that I'm a bit teary-eyed writing this. I don't have a really good grasp of my own emotions, but I think it's mostly for his wife and two daughters.

But to answer your question. Neither one of you are weird. The two of you have different experiences and are two completely different people. If he feels grief about this you shouldn't think he's weird, just accept that it's how he feels. The fact that you don't feel anything over it doesn't mean that your weird either. Both of you have the right to feel whatever you feel and not be judged.



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13 Apr 2014, 3:00 pm

The death of one particular person will affect you in different ways depending on how they influenced your life. I never got on all that well with my parents so when my father died I wasn't too upset, but the death of Freddy Mercury is something that affected me deeply because the man was so full of life. Ultimate Warrior was around just before I got interested in wrestling so I view his passing as unfortunate timing more than anything else, but I appreciate that others will feel differently.

Wait until you get older. I'm now of an age where the heroes of my youth are departing one by one, after a while you unfortunately get used to it.


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13 Apr 2014, 4:01 pm

All i got to say is: all that kind of different people = all kind of different reactions when it comes to those kind of things. Question is, why does it baffle you so much? Unless you're not aware of this concept?


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