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It actually pretty common here on Wrong Planet, I see better grammar and spelling on this site than on any other forum or comments section online, so I'd say it's not uncommon for people with AS/HFA to be meticulous about how they communicate. It probably has to do with the same brain dysfunction that causes us to take statements so literally as children.
I think perhaps since we grow up finding other people's communication to be confusing and imprecise, a lot of us may develop an obsession with the use of language.
One of my favorite books growing up was Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass - two quotes from that book really leapt off the page at me from the first time I saw them.
One was:
Quote:
"Then you should say what you mean," the March Hare went on.
"I do,' Alice hastily replied, "at least - at least I mean what I say - that's the same thing, you know."
"Not the same thing a bit!" said the Hatter. "You might just as well say that 'I see what I eat' is the same thing as 'I eat what I see'!"
"You might just as well say," added the March Hare, "that 'I like what I get' is the same thing as 'I get what I like'!"
"You might just as well say," added the Dormouse, who seemed to be talking in his sleep, "that 'I breathe when I sleep' is the same thing as 'I sleep when I breathe'!"
"I do,' Alice hastily replied, "at least - at least I mean what I say - that's the same thing, you know."
"Not the same thing a bit!" said the Hatter. "You might just as well say that 'I see what I eat' is the same thing as 'I eat what I see'!"
"You might just as well say," added the March Hare, "that 'I like what I get' is the same thing as 'I get what I like'!"
"You might just as well say," added the Dormouse, who seemed to be talking in his sleep, "that 'I breathe when I sleep' is the same thing as 'I sleep when I breathe'!"
Because it perfectly parodied the very issue I most frequently ran into in trying to communicate with adults, who, it seemed to me, almost never said exactly what they meant, but always expected me to understand exactly what they meant to say.
The other was when the Red Queen, in Through the Looking Glass told Alice:
Quote:
"Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
Because that seemed to describe just how I felt trying to live up to the expectations of the neurotypical world I found myself in. No matter how hard I tried, it was all I could do not to fall behind and get lost. The very notion of actually getting ahead was eternally beyond my reach.
Last edited by Willard on 15 Apr 2014, 6:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
15 Apr 2014, 6:02 pm
15 Apr 2014, 6:15 pm
MarcelloP wrote:
You mention having difficulty talking to adults.
I was referring to communicating with adults as a child. I had no problem talking to them, it was they who couldn't seem to communicate to me what they wanted from me, without using a lot of metaphor and simile that at that age, just seemed like nonsense to me. Phrases like "You got to get your ducks in a row," or "When somebody shakes your hand, don't you hand 'em a dead fish," were utter gibberish to a six year old.
I didn't have any ducks (not even a toy one) and I wouldn't have touched a dead fish if you paid me to. It just made grownups seem completely insane when they talked that way.
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15 Apr 2014, 10:02 pm
I used to be a major grammar nazi, but I've become much more relaxed about it over the last few years. Apostrophes in plurals still piss me off, however. 
15 Apr 2014, 10:15 pm
Willard wrote:
It actually pretty common here on Wrong Planet, I see better grammar and spelling on this site than on any other forum or comments section online, so I'd say it's not uncommon for people with AS/HFA to be meticulous about how they communicate. It probably has to do with the same brain dysfunction that causes us to take statements so literally as children.
I think perhaps since we grow up finding other people's communication to be confusing and imprecise, a lot of us may develop an obsession with the use of language.
One of my favorite books growing up was Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass - two quotes from that book really leapt off the page at me from the first time I saw them.
One was:
Because it perfectly parodied the very issue I most frequently ran into in trying to communicate with adults, who, it seemed to me, almost never said exactly what they meant, but always expected me to understand exactly what they meant to say.
The other was when the Red Queen, in Through the Looking Glass told Alice:
Because that seemed to describe just how I felt trying to live up to the expectations of the neurotypical world I found myself in. No matter how hard I tried, it was all I could do not to fall behind and get lost. The very notion of actually getting ahead was eternally beyond my reach.
I think perhaps since we grow up finding other people's communication to be confusing and imprecise, a lot of us may develop an obsession with the use of language.
One of my favorite books growing up was Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass - two quotes from that book really leapt off the page at me from the first time I saw them.
One was:
Quote:
"Then you should say what you mean," the March Hare went on.
"I do,' Alice hastily replied, "at least - at least I mean what I say - that's the same thing, you know."
"Not the same thing a bit!" said the Hatter. "You might just as well say that 'I see what I eat' is the same thing as 'I eat what I see'!"
"You might just as well say," added the March Hare, "that 'I like what I get' is the same thing as 'I get what I like'!"
"You might just as well say," added the Dormouse, who seemed to be talking in his sleep, "that 'I breathe when I sleep' is the same thing as 'I sleep when I breathe'!"
"I do,' Alice hastily replied, "at least - at least I mean what I say - that's the same thing, you know."
"Not the same thing a bit!" said the Hatter. "You might just as well say that 'I see what I eat' is the same thing as 'I eat what I see'!"
"You might just as well say," added the March Hare, "that 'I like what I get' is the same thing as 'I get what I like'!"
"You might just as well say," added the Dormouse, who seemed to be talking in his sleep, "that 'I breathe when I sleep' is the same thing as 'I sleep when I breathe'!"
Because it perfectly parodied the very issue I most frequently ran into in trying to communicate with adults, who, it seemed to me, almost never said exactly what they meant, but always expected me to understand exactly what they meant to say.
The other was when the Red Queen, in Through the Looking Glass told Alice:
Quote:
"Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
Because that seemed to describe just how I felt trying to live up to the expectations of the neurotypical world I found myself in. No matter how hard I tried, it was all I could do not to fall behind and get lost. The very notion of actually getting ahead was eternally beyond my reach.
I've wondered if Lewis Carroll might possibly have been just a little bit on the "wrong planet." He had speech therapy as an adult, he was a genius when it came to photography and math, he liked playing with words (which I've heard is a common form of Aspie humor), and he got along well with children.
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