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28 Apr 2014, 1:06 am

Yes, another gut-brain connection article. This one doesn't mention Autism specifically, but there's a lot of great info in it. It's nice to see further and further progress in official medical research being made in this area.

Article source: http://www.salon.com/2014/04/28/gut_che ... socialflow

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28 Apr 2014, 8:17 am

Ummmm, OK.

Just remember that we NEED bacteria in the gut in order to correctly function so please don't go killing off the little blighters.

and yeah, posting an entire article on WP isn't right :wink:


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28 Apr 2014, 8:43 am

Yes we do need bacteria in our guts, but the good kind. These are known generally as probiotics, and they thrive on fresh fruits and veggies. Bad bacteria thrive on simple sugars and other refined carbohydrates and thrive in the guts of most people living in modern society. Our consumption of mostly processed, refined foods are causing a detrimental imbalance in our systems, which can lead to an inummerable numbers of diseases and symptoms.


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28 Apr 2014, 8:47 am

I'm always getting minor gut irritations--I've been getting them all my life. Before the age of 5, during my "autistic" phase, I used to vomit all the time.

I could see the connection between gut irritations and ASD's; all that has to happen now is for there to be objectively-derived scientific proof of this connection.

Indeed, we do need "good" microbes, perhaps some "bad" ones as well, so the "good" microbes could continue to function.



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28 Apr 2014, 1:46 pm

Yes, slowly but surely researchers are figuring all of this stuff out and there have been a few articles out over the last year about the gut/brain/autism link. Eventually, once there's enough proper research published, people will take it more seriously and begin treating their brains by treating their guts. That's likely what it's going to take to get people to buy into this and believe it.

However, I've already made the connection and have already been treating myself over the last ~ year with life changing positive results. See the link in my sig for details in all it's rough draft glory & feel free to PM if you like. As you'll see from the thread, people here are very skeptical, but I swear to you it's 100% true and over time as more and more research is done and published on the topic people will come around to the treatment protocol I posted here months ago. All in due time, I suppose.


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28 Apr 2014, 3:14 pm

Can you do a tl;dr version of this? I am really interested but a bit unmotivated to start reading a big chunk. How can you treat yourself?



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28 Apr 2014, 5:21 pm

Haven't read the reference.

It's been found autism, with its abnormal number of brain cells and connections between them, starts in the womb. Unless someone's claiming the bacteria is in place already and is affecting the brain, then...

NOPE.

There's talk about genes that are faulty and don't properly govern the formation of the brain that are behind autism.


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28 Apr 2014, 5:53 pm

Sethno wrote:
Haven't read the reference.

It's been found autism, with its abnormal number of brain cells and connections between them, starts in the womb. Unless someone's claiming the bacteria is in place already and is affecting the brain, then...

NOPE.

There's talk about genes that are faulty and don't properly govern the formation of the brain that are behind autism.


I couldn't have said it any better myself.


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28 Apr 2014, 8:09 pm

When research makes gut bacteria a suspect, they aren't taking about bacteria getting into the brain, but how that bacterial presence in the body impacts the brain through toxins absorbed into the bloodstream, poor absorption of nutrients, immune system function, etc, so if a mother has all this going on in her system, can we rule out the impact it has on her fetus? Not yet, I think.

The real issue here, I think, is more how a person with autism can manage their symptoms, and it's undeniable that promoting good gut bacteria and avoiding modern semi-dwarf strain wheat, A1dairy, gluten in general, and therapy have all had success in various people, although the effectiveness varies highly, from no effect at all to totally reversed, and everywhere in between.

Till research finds the smoking gun/guns and the direct treatment for each, we are left to trial and error in our own personal experiments.


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29 Apr 2014, 3:52 am

cannotthinkoff wrote:
Can you do a tl;dr version of this? I am really interested but a bit unmotivated to start reading a big chunk. How can you treat yourself?


Gut dysbiosis (literally an imbalance of life) affects brain function, mood, thoughts, emotions, & symptoms of depression, anxiety, adhd, autism, and virtually every other non-NT diagnosis. Clearing your digestive tract of parasites/bad bacteria, healing the gut, and repopulating it with healthy probiotic bacteria can change and improve everything. It has for me. I've done this via diet & herbal treatments over the last year or so. It's changed my entire life for the better. The link in my signature is a rough draft read, but it has all of the info about what I've done to treat myself.


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