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Fuzzy
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23 Feb 2007, 9:40 pm

If the average ASer places little attention importance on eyes, and commonly people misdraw faces in art by over exagerating the size for the face and eyes compared to the size of the head, then perhaps a facial analysis test would be of benefit in diagnosis. An ASer would have a truer vision of the porportions, or be able to readily recognise distortions in drawings.



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23 Feb 2007, 10:09 pm

Except for those of us with prosopagnosia.



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23 Feb 2007, 10:14 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
If the average ASer places little attention importance on eyes, and commonly people misdraw faces in art by over exagerating the size for the face and eyes compared to the size of the head, then perhaps a facial analysis test would be of benefit in diagnosis. An ASer would have a truer vision of the porportions, or be able to readily recognise distortions in drawings.


I don't know that it's little importance so much as can't read them. I just sorely flunked the eye test. Two out of whatever and even those were guesses (which only means I suck at multiple choice, which I do). I made myself look at them and had no clue at all what they meant. I'm not sure if making them out of proportion would fix that.


Anyway, isn't the test I too with the eyes and faces what you are talking about? I think they use that as part of diagnosis.



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23 Feb 2007, 10:41 pm

Yeah, I'm with zannemarie, I must have prosopagnosia ALSO! Frankly, I LIKE the eyes! Some have some interesting ones. I'm not crazy about looking into peoples eyes, and I generally don't, but I can't say I give them little importance.

I would LOVE to really know what I do wrong WHEN I do it wrong though. My almost submissive glances are not often remarked on, but I have heard remarks TWICE in the past 2 years, The last one was only days ago. That one thing could have a big effect on my social life.

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23 Feb 2007, 10:52 pm

Oh oh. That sounds ominous. Did you get THE FROWN?


At least you weren't told you were stranger than s__t by people who actually like you and told you never fooled anyone.



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23 Feb 2007, 11:59 pm

this is copied from my sept 06 blog, but I think it is pertinent:

Yesterday, I was shopping and went into the toy section, and I noticed something I had never noticed before (although I'm sure it has always been like this). I went down the girls aisle and noticed that all the figures, dolls, and even animals had disproporionately large heads, and on those heads they had disproportionately large features, especially eyes. These eyes were also very elaborate in design, having eyelashes, many different colors, and on some the highlights were in the shapes of stars, crescents, or hearts. Then I went down the boys aisle, and looked at the 'action' figures (there were no dolls or animals. The figures were in better proportion, except for having barrel chests and extremely large overly muscelled arms and legs. The heads were normal sized. The eyes were nominal, if they had them at all. Some had sunglasses or masks over them, and the ones that didn't were mostly just white, with a couple having black dots in the middle.

Now, I am not a psychologist so it makes me wonder if these features help steer the development of children, or if they are that way because that is what is important to the to children when growing up. (The nature vs. nurture argument) Either way, if that is what girls play with and are interested in versus boys, it explains a couple things in my past, like why a girl I was dating asked me during a phone call if I knew what color her eyes were (I did actually remember but didn't see why it was important.) But I guess this shows, one way or another, that girls pay more attention to facial characteristics than boys do, while boys are more interested in general physique. Truthfully, except for scars or facial hair, I think any of the heads on boys toys could be interchanged and no one would notice.

Now that I know about how some aspies don't like eye contact (it has never been an issue for me) it makes me wonder what effect, if any, these different styles of eyes have on aspie and autistic kids.


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