Bending a post to your will
I'm just curious..
If you are a poster that does (not necessarily all) the following:
+ Posts with proper grammar and punctuation
+ Edits and/or previews post (before posting) extensively
+ Utilizes a vast expanse of lengthy, complex words from vocab
+ Posts void of emoticons and/or emotional responses
1. Do you do so because you prefer to post like that, or because you feel it is expected of you? Alternatively, do you post in this way only because it's a forum, perhaps most specifically a forum for ASDs?
2. Do you fight against your will to post in the manner described?
3. Have you ever wanted to reply to a post like this but have chosen not to: 'LOL that sounds like fun! XD' (Insert question mark for punctuation)
4. Personally, do you feel your posting style has any relevance to having an ASD?
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+ Edits and/or previews post (before posting) extensively
I do those things.
I usually post messages as I would normally post messages or post without changing the way I act into something else.
I also write messages that I would want forums to look like, for example I don't post spam ("+1", "me too", "same", "lol", "emoticon", etc.. or "act stupid" [in my opinion, no offense to anyone who posts such things]).
I don't understand how someone could create an online persona and act like someone else on the Internet.
I don't even understand why (or even how) people act/say the Internet would be something else than "real life".. Which in my understanding makes everyone act like idiots, "troll", bully or break the law on the Internet.
For me Internet is "real" and not a another world or anything "unreal".
The way act on the Internet is the same I act outside of the Internet.
Sorry for going a bit out of the topic there.. (or spelling errors, I don't speak English as my language)
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I edit, sometimes look up grammar online and preview often. I find posting in English somewhat frustrating because of exactly that what causes these habits; I probably look like a moron to native speakers and I often realise I didn't word something that well but lack the skills to communicate it better or more eloquently. Kind of strange as I'm not a perfectionist at all, it's just that English is now supposed to be my communicational vehicle and it's lacking.
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I like to use proper grammar and I always edit. I try to speak or write as if I actually really do know the language and I edit extensively because I make a lot of mistakes. I mostly write things in reverse or skip letters, words, or entire phrases. Sometimes I uses things like LOL because it's common on forums and it saves time. I also try to write very clearly and thoroughly because if I don't it can be difficult to understand what I mean or what I am trying to say. And some people here are from other countries and English is a foreign language for them so I try to make my posts as clear and easy to understand as I can.
It's not really against my will to do those things though. And as far as it having a relevance to having ASD, I don't know. I guess there is an element of OCD involved or of perfectionism. And I know that my posts and my writings can sometimes be much more formal in expression than my daily speech. We have discussed this phenomenon on other threads and have thought that it might somehow be ASD related so maybe that is something.
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My responses will be similar to those of HoodedShadow.
I do the following:
+ Edits and/or previews post (before posting) extensively
+ Utilizes a vast expanse of lengthy, complex words from vocab
But I do employ the use of emoticons as I've long held the view that they do assist in getting certain emotional tones and intentions across on the internet, in a conversation setting, better than just words alone might.
I do so because I prefer to post like that, and the reason I prefer to is because writing is one of my interests, if you will, and has been since the earliest time I could write. It's been one of my stronger skills from a young age, although I must confess I'm by no means perfect, and as I age my spelling, grammar and punctuation is on a downward slide, haha!
I don't post this way because it's a forum -- I strive to type or write with the correct use of language wherever and whenever I type or write, even in texts on a phone. Because, I love the English language and I try to do right by it no matter the setting. I think it's also good practice in order to stay skilled in it.
Having said that, I'm not above a quick response of a smiley and a "Lol!" Because these news methods of communication do in fact serve a useful purpose -- so I use them too if I've a mind.
Not applicable -- comes naturally to me.
As mentioned above, sure, I do post like that sometimes, if that's all I need to say. Nothing wrong with it at all.
Personally I really don't think so. I think anyone who enjoys language and writing, possibly wants or once wanted to BE a writer or journalist, in some cases, is interested in simply writing correctly no matter where it is, be it a forum or a letter or a job application or an e-mail.
Not that there's anything wrong with being less formal or using modern text-speak if one wishes. I think there's a place for all of it. I just prefer to write traditionally more often than not.
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I do all those things except punctuation, I tend to forget punctuation, well some of it anyway. but when it comes to words like LOL I never use that word it annoys me, well I have used it now but I don't usually.
I just like making things sound right, to some extent if you are posting something like a question you do want to word it in a way that you think might encourage people to look at, or make it clear enough so that people know that I am asking, I do that on any forum I might be on not just on here.
as for emoticons, I generally forget to use them, I do sometimes.
+ Edits and/or previews post (before posting) extensively
+ Utilizes a vast expanse of lengthy, complex words from vocab
+ Posts void of emoticons and/or emotional responses
I do all the above.
I do so because I want to be as clear as possible about what I am saying.
No.
I will use emoticoms and short forms if they're appropriate.
If you mean, does my autism effect how I express myself in posts, I'd have to assume it does.
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If you are a poster that does (not necessarily all) the following:
+ Posts with proper grammar and punctuation
+ Edits and/or previews post (before posting) extensively
+ Utilizes a vast expanse of lengthy, complex words from vocab
+ Posts void of emoticons and/or emotional responses
1. Do you do so because you prefer to post like that, or because you feel it is expected of you? Alternatively, do you post in this way only because it's a forum, perhaps most specifically a forum for ASDs?
2. Do you fight against your will to post in the manner described?
3. Have you ever wanted to reply to a post like this but have chosen not to: 'LOL that sounds like fun! XD' (Insert question mark for punctuation)
4. Personally, do you feel your posting style has any relevance to having an ASD?
I DO use proper grammar and punctuation----generally speaking----if I'm answering a post like this, when I'm giving a "textual" answer. If I'm on a "informal" thread (e.g. a game thread), I don't feel compelled to give a formal post.
I "preview" when I've put something in italics, or bold.
I don't use emoticons, usually, just because they're a little too cutesy for me.
1. I DO post like this because I prefer to. I DON'T do "what is expected of me"----I need only to live-up-to MY standards. I post this way on every forum to which I've posted.
2. No, I don't fight against posting the way I do. It's just natural for me.
3. No, I've never fought-against posting like that----I HAVE posted like that.
4. Maybe. Aspies are very creative. I've been a writer since I was a little bitty kid----poems, plays, stories, etc.
I just post what's on my mind. sometimes i'll go back and rearrange the order of words or sentences or trim it down if i feel like it's a more significant statement,. but mainly i just say what i mean and mean what i say... which i think has relevance to my asd... truthful, blunt and to the point. As far as grammar and punctuation and all that, after nearly 15,000 posts, i don't knock myself out over that too much. i'm a kid i can like get away this
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I prefer to attempt to use proper grammar, punctuation, "big words," etc. because I want to present myself well; I also want people to understand what I write. I use "big words" because they convey an exact meaning. I also want to present myself in a "literary" manner.
Sometimes, I edit my posts--mostly, because I've omitted certain words, or spelled something incorrectly, or imprecisely conveyed an idea.
There are times, of course, when I don't sound "literary" or even intelligent. This is when I am in a certain mode of thinking--the vernacularized mode.
I believe, at times, when I am pedantic (which is rare these days), that the pedantry is a reflection of the fact that I have an ASD.
I use emoticons when I want to express emotions. I use LOL to indicate that I find something funny or ironic.
+ Edits and/or previews post (before posting) extensively
+ Utilizes a vast expanse of lengthy, complex words from vocab
+ Posts void of emoticons and/or emotional responses
I don't do any of those things. I dislike getting hung up on the details and only focus on the actual thoughts or ideas expressed in posts. Maybe I will fit in the control group for your analysis.
I always try you do a good job with spelling, punctuation and grammar when I write, but as I have mentioned on my thread, Threads Of Autism, and will eventually go into more there, I have deliberately developed my particular writing style in order to encourage people to have to struggle a bit and think actively in order to be able to understand it. I am not here to eat and/or feed to others pablum. There has been a repetitive quality, or at least used to be, in some of my writing in that I used to sometimes repeat the same phrase twice but with slightly different wording when it only needed to be said once, which may have to do with my brain damage, but I have basically been on the alert for that in the last few weeks, so people will not see too much of it.if any.
I actually am able to write in an entirely different style which is very simple, poetic and flowing, which people can very easily relate to,but I deliberate;y choose not to do that as it creates too much flow or what I call slip.
re speaking writing here or anywhere else on the internet, to me speech is sacred as words and thinking done consciously rather than mechanically can help so many people who are suffering. I take it very seriously to be able to write here.
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I do none of those things, who cares. I am not writing a scientific journal and wont change the world with these words. besides I would be arsed to read anyone's lengthly meticulous replies. I never quote people these days because arguments on the internet are pointless dribble. I just make my point and get out as fast as i can.
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I do it all, more or less.
It's mostly because it's the only way I feel able to communicate. Need for "correct" unambiguous writing is probably just derived from most often having to carefully type/rework my writing because I'm trying my best to gather my fleeting thoughts about what I want to convey all at the same time. My thoughts are often too vague, or change too fast for me to be able to just write something down on the spot and be comfortable posting it.
This is not just limited to my writing though, it's also more or less how I communicate with people in real life too, although don't use "big words" (and I can be a bit more "social" with unconditionally supporting people like my parents). The things above is a major explanation for why I don't write or speak much in the first place, unless it's about something concrete or logical it's just too difficult, if it's at all there (in my head).
The virtually complete lack of any social-emotional reciprocal communication is just a result of it.
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