Not caring what non-autistic people think

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21 Jun 2014, 2:21 am

Does anyone not really care what non-autistics think of autistics, either you or just in general?



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21 Jun 2014, 3:54 am

I wish I could not think about what they thought of us but that would be denial. Because they are approximately 98% of the world compared to our 2% they often have a dominating effect on the results of our choices. My choices are often between do this and burn out or don't do it and be broke,incarcerated etc (which can definitely burn you out). When they make choices unless they have somebody they care about on the spectrum they have no need to consider us.

We still should make choices and we do have the ability to minimize their effects on us.


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21 Jun 2014, 4:25 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I wish I could not think about what they thought of us but that would be denial.


I like the distinction you make between care about and think about.

I really don't care what others think of me in the sense of others influencing my values and my perception of the world, but to an extent I must think about what others think about me to avoid the worst possible consequences resulting from being perceived as different.

Mainstream society operates as a form of coercion.



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21 Jun 2014, 6:02 am

In what context do you mean this?

I can't figure out the way with which you would want others to apply what you posted.


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21 Jun 2014, 6:31 am

Norny wrote:
In what context do you mean this?

I can't figure out the way with which you would want others to apply what you posted.


Yes, I'm unsure what you're asking specifically too. Would you mind clarifying it a bit? I'd like to be able to contribute to the discussion but can't quite tell what you really want to know.



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21 Jun 2014, 6:38 am

I don't care, but to an extent. To me it's still important what non-autistics think about my performance in areas I consider my strengths in the non-autistic "world".


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21 Jun 2014, 6:50 am

Caring about that is normal, since most of the people in the world are neurotypical and other peoples opinions of neuroatypical people affects us a great deal.


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21 Jun 2014, 7:36 am

I think about what the "general public" (who are usually comprised of people who think in "neurotypical" ways) thinks whenever I do certain things at work or in the street (e.g., meow, growl, punch walls in frustration, etc).

I also think about what the "general public" thinks about people with autism (their opinions are usually based upon a lack of knowledge pertaining to autism). I think about how I could change that perception. This would mean setting a good example (e.g., not punching walls in frustration, growling, meowing, etc).

I care, to the extent where it affects my livelihood. If my actions at work cause me to lose my job--darn right I'd care! If they don't affect my job status, I don't care one whit, except maybe to the extent that I'm not presenting myself well as a member of the autism community. This leads me to think about my actions in the street and at work--if I could improve the perception of autism by the general public, by restraining myself, I would take steps to restrain myself.

I also care about the public perception of autism



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21 Jun 2014, 9:25 am

I kind of care if it's someone close to me, but other than that, I really don't give a damn about NTs other than my mother and I don't think they are superior to me at all.


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21 Jun 2014, 12:54 pm

Some of the complaints of the "general public" might be legitimate. Imagine how your co-workers should react when punching walls at work. I know that this stuff some autistics can't help, but I think there needs to be a fine line in society. Am I wrong?

I didn't know I was supposed to "care" what the public thinks of me. Then I do not go out to see them often.



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22 Jun 2014, 7:25 am

I care about what my friends and family say or think about me.

I give little regard to what others say or think of me.



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22 Jun 2014, 8:16 am

After being stuck on this rock for so long, there's one thing I've learned and that is, not one of us is perfect!

Regardless of whether you're categorized as this or that, we're all weird in or own way and not one of us is any better than the other - we're all clueless about who we are, why we're here and what it's all about!

So No! I don't give a toss what some other clueless individual thinks about me because we're all in the same boat as far as I'm concerned. We're all individuals and EVERYONE is weird in their own way. Some just choose (and are better/more desirous) at hiding it because they're not aware that we're all weird in our own ways as I said!

What other clueless humans feel about me is of no consequence to me! I know me better than anybody else and I'm happy with me! and that's all that matters to me!


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22 Jun 2014, 8:38 pm

ImAnAspie wrote:
After being stuck on this rock for so long, there's one thing I've learned and that is, not one of us is perfect!

Regardless of whether you're categorized as this or that, we're all weird in or own way and not one of us is any better than the other - we're all clueless about who we are, why we're here and what it's all about!

So No! I don't give a toss what some other clueless individual thinks about me because we're all in the same boat as far as I'm concerned. We're all individuals and EVERYONE is weird in their own way. Some just choose (and are better/more desirous) at hiding it because they're not aware that we're all weird in our own ways as I said!

What other clueless humans feel about me is of no consequence to me! I know me better than anybody else and I'm happy with me! and that's all that matters to me!


This sounds so much like my husband. Our daughter is 12 and more like me when it comes to how people feel about her. I always was envious of how my husband did not care about what others' thought of him. It was not in a mean way but nothing could bring down his opinion of himself but himself.


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23 Jun 2014, 7:09 am

I worry too much of what NTs think of me, but people with other disorders I don't feel so shy around. There's a woman at work who I can tell has learning difficulties and she said she has Dyspraxia and is dyslexic too, and I feel I can be myself more with her and she just laughs and thinks I'm funny and I've kind of made friends with her. But most of the other people at work I would not be so witty around because I feel like they might think that some of my witty remarks are stupid. Same when I met my mum's friend's girl who had Down's Syndrome. I felt I could be myself with her and I knew she did not think anything of it. She was 17 but still liked having toys and things to play with, which I thought was cute.

I feel I can be myself with people with Alzheimer's too, depending on how bad they are.


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23 Jun 2014, 10:50 am

yes and no. i don't really care what strangers think about my autism and dyspraxia traits. people who know me understand or should and if they don't, thats there problem. but like on the forums i care about what people think about me....whether thats here or on my "NT" forums.



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23 Jun 2014, 11:26 am

I don't worry so much what people think of me on internet forums, which is why I usually come online to ask about something I feel too embarrassed about asking anyone straight to the face. But to discuss such matters online, I have to know I'm talking to people I have never met before, and I make sure not to have a picture of my face next to my profile. That way I can remain anonymous and I don't get embarrassed as much. I know a lot of people (Aspie or NT) talk me into not being embarrassed, and some people seem to get the stupid idea that being embarrassed about things is ''childish'' and that when you're grown up you shouldn't feel embarrassed any more. I don't believe that is true, as I don't always like discussing some of my private personal business openly.


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