How is our loyalty?

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I notice my loyalty to employers tend to be short lived and only when I'm getting what I want. As soon as the "well" dries up I make quick moves to get out. I tend to find managers and others (co-workers) tend to continue working continuously. When i leave a job, I will give my notice and simply pack my s**t and leave on the last day with no hand shakes etc.... I tend to feel this is something that is common with many of us...

I think our loyalty is very deep and not given out willy-nilly to everyone. If someone is committed to me, I am deeply, deeply loyal even when I don't *feel* like being loyal. But, that is hard to find.

Loyalty goes beyond a job/work. Work is a contract. It is impersonal and centered around the idea that each party is getting something that they want. When the contract expires or if one party or the other no longer feels they are getting what they want, then the contract can be changed or renewed or negated. In that situation, my loyalty is to myself. I can't make *my* life decisions around my coworkers, no matter how much I like them, so if I leave work it is matter of fact. If I find that actually liked a particular coworker, I would be sad to leave that person and probably say goodbye. I might even try to meet up with that person outside of work. But, if I had no particular relationship with a coworker, I wouldn't go out of my way to say a "proper goodbye". I figure if someone cares about me, they know I'm leaving and will come find me if they feel a need to say goodbye.

Family, however, in not based on a contract. That is where loyalty comes in. Especially close friends also deserve my loyalty. And that loyalty is fierce. It's just not handed out too often.

I also tend to find that I leave a job once I've had it working there. the last place I worked at, I wasn't treated like a person and come home depressed each time, so in the end I found another job, got last pay packet and left without saying bye to anyone.

The jobs that came before, I found that after half a year or so, I'd get bored and then look for work elsewhere. I think I'll be at my happiest when I just work for myself.

No one is more loyal than an ASDer to those who are dear to us, i.e. family and close friends.

My loyalty regarding companies works exactly this way as a means of preserving my sanity and personal life - as a software consultant I've had some EXTREMELY shady employers, so freelancing and studying is quite often a better use of my time. Regarding my friends and family however, my loyalty goes farther than perhaps anyone understands. I think self is an illusion, the greatest driving force in my work is knowing for certain I'm able to improve my tribe's lives.

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I have for most of my adult life recognized my loyalty to family, friends and even coworkers if they exhibit loyalty first (little stuff, like doing favors for me even when I don't ask for them, or defending me when others criticize me). At that point, I am completely reciprocal in my loyalty. But, if an individual fails to respect that relationship (like insulting me or failing to fulfill a promise without saying why), I end my loyalty immediately and the relationship stays chilled until an apology is made, or the other person gets the hint and stops communicating with me.

I give respect to almost anyone, but loyalty to very few. Once I decide that they are worth my loyalty, I will go to extreme lengths for them. But it also doesn't mean slavish devotion. Say, if someone I were loyal to were to ask something of me that I thought was wrong, my loyalty would mean that I would resist rather than obey, because to do something wrong at the behest of someone you trust is actually to betray their trust. You owe it to them to do the right thing, rather than to do what they want.

Yes, I learned this while studying Nazi Germany. I'm German-American, and I feel like we have a lot to learn from those years.

That seems a little harsh. I couldn't possibly predict someone else's needs, although the more time I spend with someone, the better I get at guessing. But it's still a guess.

Are you really good at predicting other people's needs? If so, how do you do it?

I'm loyal, and what do you want besides money for your labour and to be treated with basic human dignity?

I am loyal to a fault. Although It has paid off a few times I usually by peoples side too long and get burned. I was raised to be loyal though because that's how long term successful business are run, I am hoping it works out.