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11 Aug 2014, 1:42 pm

On and off, I have been experiencing symptoms of extreme exhaustion for the past few weeks and am wondering whether any of you have advice as to how to manage this.

I am finding that I can often only do as little as one hour of work before completely burning out. I know when I am burnt out when I absolutely cannot focus on anything, including unfamiliar reading materials, can barely get myself to do anything properly aside from mindless repetitive activity, and my mind just goes blank. I also often experience physical pain and extreme difficulty getting myself out of my home in the morning to go and do some work. I often go into deep introspection and/or periods of intense stimming and lose track of reality. I am also trying to arrange random things like getting a psychoed assessment, trying to find odd jobs, and trying to improve my interview skills/work on getting rid of anxiety (it's not chronic so it's not my main source of exhaustion, I just get random episodes). Some people I contact about these things aren't very good at getting back to me and I have no more energy left to pester them.

I am not even working full-time. I have three volunteer positions, work 6 - 10 hours a week now (excluding transit and making lesson plans), but I don't think it's a full 40 hours every week. I also have house chores to do and am actively looking for a place to live for next month, with my partner's poor credit score and me being unable to work full-time as my schedule is already exhausting me, it's very stressful at times. My chores often go neglected, I haven't been good at maintaining my social ties, and I am behind on my work.

I am afraid I wouldn't be able to hold a full-time job if I don't develop strategies to deal with this exhaustion. I also need to make sure I get good references.

Does anyone have any advice for how to deal with these issues?


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11 Aug 2014, 1:46 pm

I don't have any advice, other than to say I know what you're going through because I'm going through it right now myself. Maybe we both can be helped in this thread!


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11 Aug 2014, 1:47 pm

Do you take regular breaks when you work? That is my only suggestion....if I don't take breaks I get overloaded very quickly and instead of getting a few things done slowly, I get nothing done at all.


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11 Aug 2014, 1:50 pm

Any chance you have adrenal fatigue? There could be a genuine physical cause for it.


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11 Aug 2014, 1:52 pm

animalcrackers wrote:
Do you take regular breaks when you work? That is my only suggestion....if I don't take breaks I get overloaded very quickly and instead of getting a few things done slowly, I get nothing done at all.
I find I've been taking too many breaks lately and have been very slow/unproductive. It's like my body is telling me "I don't want to work, stop pushing me". Just to get myself to do at least some work requires a lot of self-pushing. It wasn't nearly like that before...

Plus, I find taking a break is so good that I just start wanting more, making it even more difficult to focus. Getting out of my apartment is another challenge and I need to figure out how to deal with that, too. I don't think that has anything to do with breaks.

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Any chance you have adrenal fatigue? There could be a genuine physical cause for it.
Maybe. Unfortunately I can't see a doctor until September. I have a friend who also experiences fatigue and she went to the doctor, but the doctor told her that her health is fine.


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11 Aug 2014, 1:52 pm

I used to work full time and go to school part-time.

I used to relax when I would take public transportation--just put my head down and take a little nap. I used to get stressed whenever I had to do a practicum--but, somehow, I managed.

Of course, you have to get as much sleep as possible during evenings. And eat well. Make sure you don't overindulge, though--that's the worst thing one could when on a rough schedule. Don't under-indulge, either.

I would also concentrate, within my studying, on new material, rather than material you already know. Especially if you've got an "autistic" mind, you could maintain the memory of what you have previously learned. Confidence in this is the key.

Within your lesson plans, I would make sure I'm working from a template previously developed, rather than "starting from scratch." A professor I know, who is actually not into "cutting corners," believes strongly in templates. She even does a template for my letters of recommendation LOL.

Also: maybe listening to some music you like would help as well.



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11 Aug 2014, 1:53 pm

Try to get to bed at night no later than 10pm to allow your body to fall into a circadian rhythm and get proper sleep. Try not to eat two to three hours before bed as well and drink water right before bed and then again first thing when you wake up. Also if you can do some intestinal and heavy metal detoxing that will help a lot as well. Try to eat as healthy as you can afford to. I suggest eating as little wheat and corn as possible. And if you eat meat and dairy try to use products that come from animals who have only been fed grass 100%. I also make sure that the animal products I buy come from ranches and farms where the animals are healthy and happy and well cared for and killed in a very dignified, respectful and humane fashion. I find that trying to eliminate wheat and corn, especially wheat, makes a huge difference on my entire body and how it functions. Also try to limit your consumption of refined sugars and flours and overly processed foods and drinks. Instead of wheat products I try to eat spelt or millet or quinoa. Many people will tell you spelt and wheat are the same but they are not. They are very different. They are related to each other but not the same. Spelt products will say wheat on them because the FDA insists that is on the package. But read the ingredients instead. If it's just spelt and wheat is not an ingredient than it's not wheat.

Make sure you are staying hydrated throughout the day. Check the color of your urine. You want it to be clear or as close to clear as possible. Also you want to make sure you are pooping every day. The ideal is three times a day about an hour or so after you eat and you can get to that point but even if it's just once a day it's better than not once a day. Poop backed up in your intestines can wreak real havoc on yous system and cause all kinds of issues including fatigue.

Also monitor your sensory input. I am wearing my ear defenders a lot more now. I have even gotten to where I am wearing them out in public sometimes. Sensory overload affects us much more strongly and deeply than we ever realize.

Best wishes to you. I hope you will feel much better soon. Keep us posted.


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11 Aug 2014, 1:56 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I would also concentrate, within my studying, on new material, rather than material you already know. Especially if you've got an "autistic" mind, you could maintain the memory of what you have previously learned. Confidence in this is the key.

Within your lesson plans, I would make sure I'm working from a template previously developed, rather than "starting from scratch." A professor I know, who is actually not into "cutting corners," believes strongly in templates. She even does a template for my letters of recommendation LOL.

Also: maybe listening to some music you like would help as well.
I'm not doing any classes now. It's all research work (aka data entry/data analysis) and I have to develop lesson plans for my job.

So I don't need to memorize anything at all, thank goodness. I find the transit too sensory overwhelming to relax there. A lot of my work is on campus anyway so I just need to walk there.


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11 Aug 2014, 1:59 pm

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I am wearing my ear defenders a lot more now. I have even gotten to where I am wearing them out in public sometimes. .


Not meaning at all to take the thread on a tangent, but what are those? *curious*

They sound (no pun intended!) like something I would use! *goes to google*


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11 Aug 2014, 2:02 pm

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Any chance you have adrenal fatigue? There could be a genuine physical cause for it.
That is a big deal. You need to learn your limitations and pace yourself to not stretch your adrenal glands. They can become damaged.


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11 Aug 2014, 2:10 pm

skibum wrote:
little_blue_jay wrote:
Any chance you have adrenal fatigue? There could be a genuine physical cause for it.
That is a big deal. You need to learn your limitations and pace yourself to not stretch your adrenal glands. They can become damaged.


If you have access to a naturopath they can test that for you. It is only shining light into your eyes to see your pupils' reactions.

Then you take some desiccated adrenal gland for a while till they heal. (It's usually bovine, so if you're vegan it won't be for you.) I'd still be on it (I've had weak adrenals) but it's expensive and since I'm not working right now I'm not under enough stress to justify it.


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11 Aug 2014, 2:12 pm

skibum wrote:
Try to get to bed at night no later than 10pm to allow your body to fall into a circadian rhythm and get proper sleep. Try not to eat two to three hours before bed as well and drink water right before bed and then again first thing when you wake up. Also if you can do some intestinal and heavy metal detoxing that will help a lot as well. Try to eat as healthy as you can afford to. I suggest eating as little wheat and corn as possible. And if you eat meat and dairy try to use products that come from animals who have only been fed grass 100%. I also make sure that the animal products I buy come from ranches and farms where the animals are healthy and happy and well cared for and killed in a very dignified, respectful and humane fashion. I find that trying to eliminate wheat and corn, especially wheat, makes a huge difference on my entire body and how it functions. Also try to limit your consumption of refined sugars and flours and overly processed foods and drinks. Instead of wheat products I try to eat spelt or millet or quinoa. Many people will tell you spelt and wheat are the same but they are not. They are very different. They are related to each other but not the same. Spelt products will say wheat on them because the FDA insists that is on the package. But read the ingredients instead. If it's just spelt and wheat is not an ingredient than it's not wheat.

Make sure you are staying hydrated throughout the day. Check the color of your urine. You want it to be clear or as close to clear as possible. Also you want to make sure you are pooping every day. The ideal is three times a day about an hour or so after you eat and you can get to that point but even if it's just once a day it's better than not once a day. Poop backed up in your intestines can wreak real havoc on yous system and cause all kinds of issues including fatigue.

Also monitor your sensory input. I am wearing my ear defenders a lot more now. I have even gotten to where I am wearing them out in public sometimes. Sensory overload affects us much more strongly and deeply than we ever realize.

Best wishes to you. I hope you will feel much better soon. Keep us posted.
Thanks, good advice. I actually have tried going to bed earlier but somehow I felt better when I went to bed later. I think I'm a "night owl". I don't know why I experienced this, it's strange even to me.

I don't eat wheat anyway because I'm gluten free (I have a sensitivity to it). I minimize my grains consumption because I monitor my weight and my eating habits; eating these carbs makes me gain weight and makes me more hungry. I also have an eating problem (if I didn't control myself, I would eat non-stop, which would NOT make me productive at work).

I can't always stay hydrated throughout the day, I find, because I am disorganized and don't always bring a bottle with me when I go out. However, I do try. I eat everything organic and from sustainable, as humane as possible sources. I spend a crapload of money on my food just to make sure that my health is top-notch and yet this is still happening to me.


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11 Aug 2014, 2:17 pm

Feel better soon, MathGirl. And you are right to recognise and acknowledge your condition now to avert possible complications. I know, because I've done it.

In private to you all (some on the Wrong Planet already know though), I physically collapsed from exhaustion a few years ago. For background, I've never needed much sleep. I never really took naps as a child and pretty easily could make-up lost sleep time. My exhaustion collapse began innocuously enough......

At that time, before doing my PhD and near finishing my MS, I was involved in research, finding new ways/methods! A few months before I had recovered from walking pneumonia, but felt fine. Plus extra busy with other duties. Waking up excited at 3-4am, staying up late after dinner - because I could. I began 'greying out', ignoring that I was sleepy. In fact, a slight lack of sleep still gives me a creative edge! Then I collapsed......I physically could not get up and struggled for a few days to regain my strength with nearly flu-like symptoms. In fact, my recovery took weeks, maybe even months. (Please know that lack of sleep equates to psychotic symptoms for anybody - while I did not experience psychosis (!), I was on the edge).

Since then I am far more cognisant of keeping a sleep schedule. Be aware that Aspies are prone to ignoring normal sleep cues and can get hurt as a result. I now use an alarm clock to make sure I get enough sleep, so I do not inadvertently wake too early. While my sleep proclivity might give me a creative edge, I learned the hard way that the Lab Pet is indeed human...... :(

Anyhow, take care of yourself first, MathGirl. For whatever reason(s), your schedule is off balance. P.S. For me, sleep is always harder during summer. Your brain needs dark to sleep, so close the curtains.


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11 Aug 2014, 2:43 pm

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skibum wrote:
I am wearing my ear defenders a lot more now. I have even gotten to where I am wearing them out in public sometimes. .


Not meaning at all to take the thread on a tangent, but what are those? *curious*

They sound (no pun intended!) like something I would use! *goes to google*
I had to ask as well a few months ago and I am so glad I did. They are those big plastic padded ear muff things that people wear to protect their hearing at constructions sites and in airports. I used to be an airport ramp agent once, the people who put the bags on the plane and guide planes in and out of the gates. Our fleet of planes was a tiny propeller fleet so we did not need them. But when I would transfer bags to the big jumbo jet areas I needed them so one of the ramp agents from American Airlines gave me a pair. But I bought some at Home Depot the other day for $25.00 and they help. Sometimes I put phone ear plugs in and then the defenders on over them. That can make a big difference.


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11 Aug 2014, 5:33 pm

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Maybe. Unfortunately I can't see a doctor until September. I have a friend who also experiences fatigue and she went to the doctor, but the doctor told her that her health is fine.
It seems like something a general practitioner doctor like an internist might be good at. Some doctors are fair to middling listeners, and some aren't, and that's just the fact of the matter.



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11 Aug 2014, 6:17 pm

You should firstly get tested for physiological conditions that could cause excessive tiredness.