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Im sorry guys if I have offended anyone on the forum I did not mean to when I wrote about people living with disabilities. To be honest I did not know what Asperger's was until I researched into it so I am very sorry and I hope you can forgive me

Thanks

Paul

I searched for your other posts to see what this apology is about. You have too many questions in one post. I think you would get more replies if you would post a few separate more specific questions in different posts. And don't duplicate posts.

Hi Pauly....

I'm not offended.I found out after living on this planet for 43 years....that I actually dont know every thing....amazing,huh.
There are people offended by the word disability but others who wouldnt mind the money,school assistence,work protections that the disability label implies.The fact is,this is a spectrum.Some people with AS are gifted or have supportive environments and they have made a decent life for themselves.I wouldnt put them in the majority.You don't have to spend to long reading posts to realize that their are also a lot of very frustrated,socially anxious,lonely and sad people here as well.Some of that maybe separate from AS,some is directly related to trying to function in a society with fewer sensory sensitivities,and others maybe related to processing information differently and being punished for that difference.

I think you could learn the most about AS from reading through some of the topics in the general autism and members only threads.One of the most amazing things for me to learn about AS was the diversity.I thought I would find people who thought/felt just like me.Instead I found some who did and others who were very religious and even Republicans(It took me awhile to get over that one,because I thought AS was about being logical.... )

I have known several people with CP and know one of the most frustrating things for some of them was being treated like the were mentally defective because the CP effected their movement and speech...but not their minds.I think that is one thing that some with AS can relate to.Because we process information differently(many cant read non-verbal communication)and may say or do things differently,people either assume you are "ret*d" or because they have seen proof of your over all intelligence....they think you are being lazy or selfish (when you cant handle over stimulating environments or get lost in your obsessions and dont return phone calls.)

I just found out about AS this past year and was only DXed at the age of 43.There are many adults here who neither had assistance or "treatment" for AS,but managed to survive.Perhaps that couldnt be said of many "disabilities"?I will never be "normal"...but I can hold a job and pay my rent.Many with AS didnt even find out there was such a thing, until they had a child with autism or AS and after reading about it,realized it wasnt just discribing their child but themselves.

I wish you well on your book.I hope you dont think everyone with AS is mean.I have seen a lot of compassion on this board.If people tend to get hostile it is likely from years of being harassed for their differences.After all,it is only logical that after being attacked over many years someone would develop some "defensiveness" and suspiciousness about other peoples motives.Many of us werent born with that.....it was a gift from a hostile world(thanks world,it has served me well)

Hostile?

That is the way I have to get ideas across to NTs. They lack the natural social ability to understand the rules they read and agreed to do apply to them.

It always starts with something small, something not worth mentioning. It was just a little violation of the rules, what are you getting upset about?

Why? Because when he first posted I replyed, "Are we talking lefthandedness or the screaming mimies?"

I got no reply, and he posted the same thing, a half dozen times. Others did respond to him as a spammer, not as a writer.

If you want to see below the surface of the water, do not stir up the mud.

Small violations of the social norm, no matter where you are, are a test.

Picking a place where they feel they have nothing to lose, they "get over" violated one little rule, so what?

A "Cheap Shot," on a person, or on a group. They take little risk, and take a small bite out of the world.

It was not worth noticing? I know better, if the test works, they will be back for a larger bite. If it continues it becomes the new norm, their ways become accepted, and they continuing biting away. If one can do it, it spreads till all have to play the game to keep up.

Now everyone is undercutting everyone else, the structure of the group, and evading the rules. Where did it start, how did it happen, what destroyed everyone and everything? One unanswered cheap shot.

The game is not direct, one little act brings discord, people in the group take sides, spew displaced agression, (look at what we were called for mentioning it). It is a play of, lets you and him fight, as I sit back and laugh, manipulating all. It worked.

How would I define this? Normal NT behavior.

How is it stopped? I posted a long, (me) overview of the rules that govern acceptable interaction, a statment of just what rules were violated, and why some people would not respond well. I explored the subject from many views, and perhaps mentioned several times that, these rules have to be read and agreed to, to become a member. I also pointed out that WP is the only place that provides a home for us all, and that this is an important issue, for those of us who were in the wilderness for fifty years, and have recently discovered we have a tribe.

I do have an issue with people who will agree to rules, and then break them. The issue is either contempt for rules, the community that they serve, or the person that created them. 9391 people find comfort and shelter because of those rules.

Many non-members come here to learn about the world in which their loved ones live. This is the inside story of something that has caused many people undue suffering. I will defend my tribe.

Yes, I do point out that people who break rules that they agreeded to, show disresepct to the community, and that they seem to lack a moral compass.

The rules were accepted then immediatly broken.

My first reply, asking the range of conditions that were being explored, was ignored. No reply.

My second reply, stating the TOS, and pointing out the what and why, was ignored.

I did express that I am verbal, a writer, I have knowledge, and explore the range of issues. No reply.

Now I find in another post I am being ignored because I have disabilities, get offended for no reason, and find the lovely and understanding Krex being manipulated into excusing my behavior, stating that my years in the world have made me hostile, defensive, and suspicious. (She is too, bless her heart.)

The cherry on top is that I am being asked to overcome my wrong thinking, and find forgivness in my black heart and deranged mind.

Spammers I will forgive if they stop, rule breakers if they comply, but maniplative cheap shot artist will have to come to understand, it is not me, it is you, deal with it!

Sorry if I made you think I was offended. I come across, quite often, as being a lot more upset about things than I really am.
I wasn't offended. You had a general lack of understanding of the opinions of people on the spectrum, which makes sense, as you're not on it, and I and several others attempted to enlighten you.
It's all logical!

Sorry if I offended you Inventor....it wasnt my intent but I do seem to have a gift for alienating and offending people.It is only a problem,when it is someone I tend to like and respect.Perhaps hostile means something derogatory in your mind but for me it is simply synonymous with a desire to protect oneself.The original poster plastered this site with their post and it did feel more like machine gun fire then the occasional "pot shot".

My ability to "forgive" is based solely on the fact that I am constantly making unintended mistakes and getting punished for them.I understand the principle of consequences following behaviors but I always thought that I shouldnt be punished as severly if my actions were unintentional verses malicious intent.

I didnt read the agreement when I joined WP.Legal speak gives me a headache.I watched what others were doing until I thought I understood the basic rules and then I began posting.I am new to computers and new to forums.I have tried to post in a couple of other sites and felt a very cold shoulder,so I left.I was also influenced by the fact that the poster has CP.As I mentioned, I have had several people in my life who have CP and I dont think any of them would fall under the heading of NT.
There is something less then" typical" about their nuerology.

I am easily manipulated.As a chronic "black and white thinker",I tend to bounce between paranoid hostility(my punk rock persona)and nieve and trusting(my AS traits).I dont seem to have much middle ground.I once read that a a cynic in idealist who has been hurt one to many times.That seems to fit for me.My whole younger years seemed to be defined by my mantra....
"Thats not fare".....I was like an open wound being (AS)salted by the very lack of logic and constant signs of cruelty of the world.

Sorry...more rambeling and self absorbtion(another gift of AS?)......