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04 Mar 2007, 2:11 am

Spinning wheels on toy cars? Instead of driving them around on the floor? .... you must have asperger's or Autism.


-Mercury Rising : Kid is seen tobe spinning wheel on car and 'listening' to it.

-I never realised that I was doing anything wrong - I loved spinning the wheels.

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04 Mar 2007, 2:46 am

I've never seen mercury rising... but I don't think spinning wheels alone would be an indication of aspergers.
It was one of the first signs of my son's autism though. Around the same time that he started spinning wheels on cars, strollers & tricycles, he completely withdrew from us and stopped talking. In that sort of context, then it's a sign that something is different but on it's own it really doesn't mean much.



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04 Mar 2007, 3:07 am

I'm just wondering if people still do it in thier adult hood?

-I do, don't really care much for the car - I wanna feel the ball bearing!

-I will also test the suspension - if it's similar to a real car. , and the 'free play' in the wheels.


...did he start walking early?


---actually Mercury Rising is an interesting example of how 'Mothering' the child will just end up keeping the child in the state that they are in, vs. when Bruce Willis is thrown into taking care of the child, the child 'HAD TO' experience things that he would normally not.

-I think my parents did it the Bruce Willis way... unknowingly torturing me into normallcy.



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04 Mar 2007, 8:50 am

My son started walking early (somewhere around 9 or 10 months)
He was pretty good with all the gross motor skills.



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04 Mar 2007, 9:11 am

Don't worry about the talking - I'm 28 and my parents are still talking to the wall!

-as long as he responds to 'direct authoratative questioning' he should still keep his vocal acuiety working (and working in a school system). ie your going to have to be authoritative now, not later.

-I think what helped me 'get out' while growing up, was the way my dad pretended he had an answer to everything..... be the technical dad, make out as if you are a walking dictionary.... (Hopefully your son is young enough for you to take on that role), I asked my dad everything, but never spoke to either one of my parents... all I wanted was an answer! ... my mum has had to pay for it, by raising a son that can't string two sentences together for her to listen too or reply too. ---It maybe advisable for both parents to become the repository.

-The offshoot for the parent being the repository, and the evident fast evolution in information and education is, that by the time your son ends up being smarter than you, conversations/being the library, will be nullified ... unless your not only a repository for general information but one on a specific topic... eg. turn a favorite topic of yours into his favorite topic (takes time, and he also has to be interested) eg. politics (should always stay the same ie don't pick something like technology, he may become apathetic towards your knowledge -thinking he knows more)

With me it was technology/invention/general science ,, and politics/history - I only talk the later today (I surpassed dad when he buaght me a PC) , on the odd occasion he still buys a Popular Science magazine, which I understand to be him, trying to invigorate the 'old times' , I usually skim over the mag and piont out to him pionts of interest.



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04 Mar 2007, 9:31 am

Erlyrisa wrote:
Spinning wheels on toy cars? Instead of driving them around on the floor? .... you must have asperger's or Autism.


-Mercury Rising : Kid is seen tobe spinning wheel on car and 'listening' to it.

-I never realised that I was doing anything wrong - I loved spinning the wheels.

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I love things that spin. I was fascinated by a spinner on a gulf cart a few weeks ago and a woman stopped and asked if I was alright. LOL I think I scared her standing in the middle of a parking lot and staring at the spinner like that. She probably thought I would be run over.



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04 Mar 2007, 9:56 am

It is TEXTBOOK autistic and AS!(Showing interests in small parts, how they work, and repetitive motion.) Heck, if I am BORED and near something, I can see MYSELF act that way. I stop myself, but I kind of laugh at the deal. It is like reading a tube of toothpaste, etc...

BTW Nothing is wrong with it. HECK, some great discoveries were made by seemingly stupid things.

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04 Mar 2007, 9:59 am

Erlyrisa wrote:
Spinning wheels on toy cars? Instead of driving them around on the floor? .... you must have asperger's or Autism.

-Mercury Rising : Kid is seen tobe spinning wheel on car and 'listening' to it.

-I never realised that I was doing anything wrong - I loved spinning the wheels.

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Not only did I... I still do...


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04 Mar 2007, 10:29 am

<music> I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go 'round and 'round . . . I really love to watch them roll </music> (John Lennon)



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04 Mar 2007, 10:57 am

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It is TEXTBOOK autistic and AS!(Showing interests in small parts, how they work, and repetitive motion.) Heck, if I am BORED and near something, I can see MYSELF act that way. I stop myself, but I kind of laugh at the deal. It is like reading a tube of toothpaste, etc...

BTW Nothing is wrong with it. HECK, some great discoveries were made by seemingly stupid things.

Steve


You need to train your co-workers. They actually bring me things I like to look at in order to get their projects moved to the top of the list. LOL

I, in turn, give them M&Ms.



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04 Mar 2007, 10:59 am

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<music> I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go 'round and 'round . . . I really love to watch them roll </music> (John Lennon)


I loved him. When he died I thought I would have a breakdown. Not that I ever thought I knew him or anything. LOL I just loved the way he was as a person. He never cared what anyone thought. He just did his own thing. I still miss him.



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04 Mar 2007, 11:00 am

Yeah, it IS amazing how many autistic or AS traits seem to be holdbacks from childhood! I ALWAYS(And I noticed this before I was 10!! !)! felt like it wa like I just shot sky high, and leveled off. As a kid I just seemed SO much smarter! But then I leveled off for a bit, and others didn't. In certain things they might even do better than I do now, in others I am still ahead.

Things kids do(Or attributes they supposedly have), that many with AS and some with other autism share.

Stimming
Preferences
Appearance of arrogance(Although most kids are just arrogant about some things)
desire for routine
Interest in simple things
Good at noticing patterns
Good memory
Talk about what they know
Have a desire to learn
don't understand non verbal language well
Interrupt
Not caring much about status or luxury.

I always was kind of amazed at how babies can learn so many abstract things so well in such a short time. It's a pity we can't all have all that even into old age.

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04 Mar 2007, 11:04 am

ZanneMarie wrote:
Corvus wrote:
<music> I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go 'round and 'round . . . I really love to watch them roll </music> (John Lennon)


I loved him. When he died I thought I would have a breakdown. Not that I ever thought I knew him or anything. LOL I just loved the way he was as a person. He never cared what anyone thought. He just did his own thing. I still miss him.


I don't know whether he was high, or just trying to prove a point, but some of his songs were just WIERD! Frankly, I liked mccartney better. The beatles would not have been the same without the two of them, but mccartney probably added the balance to get them noticed.

Steve



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04 Mar 2007, 11:38 am

SteveK wrote:
ZanneMarie wrote:
Corvus wrote:
<music> I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go 'round and 'round . . . I really love to watch them roll </music> (John Lennon)


I loved him. When he died I thought I would have a breakdown. Not that I ever thought I knew him or anything. LOL I just loved the way he was as a person. He never cared what anyone thought. He just did his own thing. I still miss him.


I don't know whether he was high, or just trying to prove a point, but some of his songs were just WIERD! Frankly, I liked mccartney better. The beatles would not have been the same without the two of them, but mccartney probably added the balance to get them noticed.

Steve


Well, I'm not balanced. This is probably why we clicked. LOL Maybe the fact that he was high made him think like an autistic and like the wheels spinning round. LSD did have that effect on many people.



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04 Mar 2007, 12:18 pm

SteveK wrote:
ZanneMarie wrote:
Corvus wrote:
<music> I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go 'round and 'round . . . I really love to watch them roll </music> (John Lennon)


I loved him. When he died I thought I would have a breakdown. Not that I ever thought I knew him or anything. LOL I just loved the way he was as a person. He never cared what anyone thought. He just did his own thing. I still miss him.


I don't know whether he was high, or just trying to prove a point, but some of his songs were just WIERD! Frankly, I liked mccartney better. The beatles would not have been the same without the two of them, but mccartney probably added the balance to get them noticed.

Steve


I suspect he was severely introverted or 'aspergers' himself, given his lyrics. Things spinning, open minded, free thinker, independent, references to 'bullying, etc.' He WAS weird. :wink: (not in a bad way, in my opinion)



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04 Mar 2007, 12:56 pm

Corvus wrote:
SteveK wrote:
ZanneMarie wrote:
Corvus wrote:
<music> I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go 'round and 'round . . . I really love to watch them roll </music> (John Lennon)


I loved him. When he died I thought I would have a breakdown. Not that I ever thought I knew him or anything. LOL I just loved the way he was as a person. He never cared what anyone thought. He just did his own thing. I still miss him.


I don't know whether he was high, or just trying to prove a point, but some of his songs were just WIERD! Frankly, I liked mccartney better. The beatles would not have been the same without the two of them, but mccartney probably added the balance to get them noticed.

Steve


I suspect he was severely introverted or 'aspergers' himself, given his lyrics. Things spinning, open minded, free thinker, independent, references to 'bullying, etc.' He WAS weird. :wink: (not in a bad way, in my opinion)


HEY, I DID respect him. He DID have talent. As I said, the beatles wouldn't have been the same without him. He made some DUMB choices, but then I have too. I've heard that is an AS symptom too. 8-( Maybe you are right.

Steve