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08 Jan 2017, 1:36 am

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Westworld' star Anthony Hopkins explores consciousness - The Desert Sun

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Well, I’ve been diagnosed with Asperger’s, but I’m high end. A lot of people with Asperger’s are highly functional, but inconsistent. They have nervous ticks, nervous habits, inconsistently obsessive thinking. Some neurological people don’t agree, but my wife was trying to figure out who she was married to and she read a newsletter from a psychotherapist. He said, 'You should see some of my patients.' He put it back on the map that Asperger’s people tend to be creative or severely handicapped. I don’t know if that’s true of me, but I know I can never be restful. I tend to multi-task. I decide I’m not going to paint and then I’ll spend 24 hours painting.


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08 Jan 2017, 12:39 pm

Fascinating man and article.



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08 Jan 2017, 9:39 pm

An aspie actor? I would find acting hard. Keeping eyecontact and characterisation are just some of the obstacles many of us would face.


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09 Jan 2017, 4:02 am

EclecticWarrior wrote:
An aspie actor? I would find acting hard. Keeping eyecontact and characterisation are just some of the obstacles many of us would face.


We have a lot of practice "pretending to be normal" , "masking" which are forms of acting.

Daryl Hannah: "My battle with autism

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Modeling involves a lot of acting
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09 Jan 2017, 5:29 am

Paddy Consadine is a brilliant actor who also has AS



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09 Jan 2017, 5:59 am

Aspergers is such a broad spectrum, I don't think I would be surprised at any person in the world being diagnosed with it.



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09 Jan 2017, 8:17 am

I wish more celebrities who suspect that they are autistic would pursue a diagnosis. If nothing results from their assessments, they might ignore their suspicions, and no one would be the wiser. But, if they are diagnosed, they could add to the growing community of influential autists. Actor Dan Aykroyd and musician Gary Numan have famously toyed with the idea of being, and not being, autistic for years. I know that many celebrities are actually less affluent than they appear, but, it seems to me that most celebrities could easily afford an assessment if they really desire one. After all, if Menswear founder Johnny Dean could afford his diagnostic "nineteen pieces of paper," so could Aykroyd and Numan. It is time to stop playing at the fringe of autism, and follow Anthony Hopkins' lead.


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09 Jan 2017, 8:27 am

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I just came to congratulate you on your footer quote. Cheers!



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09 Jan 2017, 8:32 am

I'd rather have actors who have autism stay in the closet than have actors who don't have autism like Jerry Seinfeld claim they do and make it even more of a trend for people who don't have autism to claim they do because of minor traits (what some people call "Asperger's Lite").



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09 Jan 2017, 8:33 am

I never believed Dan Aykroyd had it either. When he claimed he had both Asperger's and Tourette's growing up, I thought he was just being mean-spirited toward both groups.

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09 Jan 2017, 12:49 pm

I would've never guessed he was an aspie, either. I'm glad, too, given the stereotype that all aspies are Silicon Valley nerds with the social ability of a falling hammer, either that or Rain Men in training.

The novel, Commoner the Vagabond, presents an aspie lead who, sad to say, doesn't paint like Rembrandt, play like Beethoven, or invent things like Tesla. How many of us are savants like that anyway?



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09 Jan 2017, 2:39 pm

I just read this and said to my wife, "you'll never guess which actor just revealed he had aspergers." She asked who and when I told her, saying I would never have thought it, she said she was not surprised at all. She said he played many idiosyncratic characters who have obviously atypical reactions to things and it made complete sense to her.

I just thought he showed an incomprehensible inner life, like everyone else.


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10 Jan 2017, 5:37 am

If a celeb wants to say they think they are autistic it should not matter, it is their life, but life being unfair it does matter and in a bad way. What will follow is predictable claims that this is proof Mild/High Functioning/Aspergers people are not autistic or don't have real autism, claims that most self diagnosers are allistic excuse making trend followers. If you were not on WP when Seinfeld said he might be somewhere on the spectrum good for you. It was multiple simultaneous vicious and depressing threads. And this s**t was going on all in over the internet and the mainstream media also. Seinfeld was forced to retract. And despite all the claims of trendiness the Seinfeld fiasco seems to have had a chilling effect, Hopkins is one of the few if any celebs since Seinfeld to talk about this and it was not really a coming out but emerged as a natural part of a discussion.

I can not say I was surprised as I have heard some speculation. I hope news of this revelation travels beyond the Desert News and WP. Him both 79 years old and a respected figure goes against the "there are no old autistics" and "successful actors can not be Autistic" ideas. Let them try and say he is trendy faker. I hope this encourages celebrity autistics to start coming out again. I guess political necessity dictates the celeb needs to be professsionsly diagnosed before they say anything.


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10 Jan 2017, 8:28 am

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If a celeb wants to say they think they are autistic it should not matter, it is their life, but life being unfair it does matter and in a bad way. What will follow is predictable claims that this is proof Mild/High Functioning/Aspergers people are not autistic or don't have real autism, claims that most self diagnosers are allistic excuse making trend followers. If you were not on WP when Seinfeld said he might be somewhere on the spectrum good for you. It was multiple simultaneous vicious and depressing threads. And this s**t was going on all in over the internet and the mainstream media also. Seinfeld was forced to retract. And despite all the claims of trendiness the Seinfeld fiasco seems to have had a chilling effect, Hopkins is one of the few if any celebs since Seinfeld to talk about this and it was not really a coming out but emerged as a natural part of a discussion.

I can not say I was surprised as I have heard some speculation. I hope news of this revelation travels beyond the Desert News and WP. Him both 79 years old and a respected figure goes against the "there are no old autistics" and "successful actors can not be Autistic" ideas. Let them try and say he is trendy faker. I hope this encourages celebrity autistics to start coming out again. I guess political necessity dictates the celeb needs to be professsionsly diagnosed before they say anything.

Unless Hopkins learned from Seinfeld's mistake and chose his script intentionally, his choice of phrasing ("I've been diagnosed with Asperger's") is clinical enough to be undeniable, whereas Seinfeld's attempt stumbled to broach the subject. I still feel that Seinfeld meant well (and had even more to say about himself before short-circuiting), but we will likely never know. Once-burnt celebrities learn lessons well.

You are correct that, in Hopkins' case, age and experience might have combined well enough to prevent him being dissuaded from describing himself with certitude, not possibility. I suspect that the world will hear more from Hopkins soon. His disclosure in a small newspaper is bound to lead somewhere.


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10 Jan 2017, 11:12 am

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ASPartOfMe wrote:
If a celeb wants to say they think they are autistic it should not matter, it is their life, but life being unfair it does matter and in a bad way. What will follow is predictable claims that this is proof Mild/High Functioning/Aspergers people are not autistic or don't have real autism, claims that most self diagnosers are allistic excuse making trend followers. If you were not on WP when Seinfeld said he might be somewhere on the spectrum good for you. It was multiple simultaneous vicious and depressing threads. And this s**t was going on all in over the internet and the mainstream media also. Seinfeld was forced to retract. And despite all the claims of trendiness the Seinfeld fiasco seems to have had a chilling effect, Hopkins is one of the few if any celebs since Seinfeld to talk about this and it was not really a coming out but emerged as a natural part of a discussion.

I can not say I was surprised as I have heard some speculation. I hope news of this revelation travels beyond the Desert News and WP. Him both 79 years old and a respected figure goes against the "there are no old autistics" and "successful actors can not be Autistic" ideas. Let them try and say he is trendy faker. I hope this encourages celebrity autistics to start coming out again. I guess political necessity dictates the celeb needs to be professsionsly diagnosed before they say anything.

Unless Hopkins learned from Seinfeld's mistake and chose his script intentionaolly, his choice of phrasing ("I've been diagnosed with Asperger's") is clinical enough to be undeniable, whereas Seinfeld's attempt stumbled to broach the subject. I still feel that Seinfeld meant well (and had even more to say about himself before short-circuiting), but we will likely never know. Once-burnt celebrities learn lessons well.

You are correct that, in Hopkins' case, age and experience might have combined well enough to prevent him being dissuaded from describing himself with certitude, not possibility. I suspect that the world will hear more from Hopkins soon. His disclosure in a small newspaper is bound to lead somewhere.


If news spreads plenty of people will still say money bought the diagnosis, he is just promoting "Westworld" etc. We are just living in a era where people are especially cynical and suspicoius. But I think these accusations will have a lot less credibility with most people then the ones against Sienfeld for all the reasons we have discussed.


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11 Jan 2017, 10:09 am

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If news spreads plenty of people will still say money bought the diagnosis, he is just promoting "Westworld" etc. We are just living in a era where people are especially cynical and suspicoius. But I think these accusations will have a lot less credibility with most people then the ones against Sienfeld for all the reasons we have discussed.


Hopkins has absolutely nothing to gain from this. Westworld is doing just fine and he doesn't somehow need it to do better. The things he describes about himself are consistent with the experiences many people with an aspergers or ASD diagnosis.

People will have to get used to the idea that there is a spectrum of ability and acknowledging one part doesn't invalidate or deny the other parts. He seems like a great success, but the same traits that he describes could have left him unemployed and desperate if he had not had a banker father and luck in auditions.

I hope we hear more from him about this.


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