I am unable to tell if something is good or bad ? (Quality)

Page 1 of 1 [ 11 posts ] 

campboy92
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 1 Nov 2014
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 197

02 Dec 2014, 11:53 pm

I don't know if this is apart of de realization from aspd or PTsd but I feel like I don't have a taste. Everyone around me has a specific taste and they love certain things and are able to tell what song is bad or what movie sucks yet I actually end up liking what other people see as sh***y. It feels weird cause I don't have a taste like I appreciate every persons writing as long as they are being pure and genuine and same with art but everyone else critiques things and I just don't get it? Like go talk to a plug on the wall or play with your keychain and feel some dreaminess



goldfish21
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2013
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,612
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

03 Dec 2014, 12:13 am

Sounds like you're able to tell just fine what you think is good & when it comes to art, music, and many other things that are relative to your own tastes.. that's all that matters. You simply have a different set of criteria for what you think is good than what others around you have. Or perhaps you have a more open mind and can appreciate a much broader range of things than others can. Either way, your sense of good and bad isn't defective when it comes to anything artistic - it's just different than others. EVERYONE has a slightly different perspective when it comes to art. One single song could be one person's most favourite tune of all time, and another might find it boring, while someone else thinks it's terrible and should never be played… and guess what? They're all right.. because there is no right or wrong in terms of what you like.

As for quality, it's a little less subjective. The quality of something is measured as to how closely it has been produced to the specifications it was engineered to be made. If a song is played out of tune or time, it's of poor quality because it's not what's specified on the sheet music. If every round bouncy ball produced is perfectly round, they're of excellent quality of shape.. but if they're all sorts of different oval shapes then they'd be considered low quality as they wouldn't look nor function as intended. etc. Quality isn't so subjective and relative as artistic appreciation. It's much more quantifiable & measurable and that is why there's an entire industry around quality control and statistical process control/six sigma quality control systems and so on. I'll spare you the bell curves and stats lecture :P but my point is that you can't have a "wrong" opinion about personal preferences for art. If you want to consider art in terms of quality, it's very simple: You have different criteria for what constitutes "good" quality art vs. "bad" than what others do. That's just fine because there is no set measurement criteria or specifications for the "quality" of art like can be so easily defined for a mass manufactured product.


_________________
No :heart: for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.


Sibyl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Jul 2009
Age: 80
Gender: Female
Posts: 597
Location: Kansas

03 Dec 2014, 12:22 am

Right on, goldfish21! I couldn't have said it better!


_________________
Asperges me, Domine


mr_bigmouth_502
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Dec 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 7,028
Location: Alberta, Canada

03 Dec 2014, 12:46 am

Taste is a very subjective thing, and everybody likes and dislikes certain things. I listen to and enjoy lot of bands that many people can't stand, yet I hate most of the popular music they play on the radio that other people find either inoffensive or even enjoyable.

Here's an example of something I like listening to once in a while, that most people wouldn't even consider listenable:
Merzbow - Klo Ken Phantasie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xqZwZikRlY

Or for some less-extreme examples of the weird music I enjoy:
Sunn O))) - Bathory Erzsebet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH6Re2fazVc
Slayer - Angel of Death https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_zsJ8KPP0
Skinny Puppy - Assimilate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAhL-KeK_w

And, for comparison, here's some popular music that I HATE.
Flo Rida - Low https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6Q_uaJF4k
Lou Bega - Mambo no. 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_LN3XEcnw
Cyndi Lauper - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

Wow, just thinking about it now, I kinda like some scary music. :P



olympiadis
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,849
Location: Fairview Heights Illinois

03 Dec 2014, 1:19 am

campboy92 wrote:
I don't know if this is apart of de realization from aspd or PTsd but I feel like I don't have a taste. Everyone around me has a specific taste and they love certain things and are able to tell what song is bad or what movie sucks yet I actually end up liking what other people see as sh***y. It feels weird cause I don't have a taste like I appreciate every persons writing as long as they are being pure and genuine and same with art but everyone else critiques things and I just don't get it? Like go talk to a plug on the wall or play with your keychain and feel some dreaminess


I think it just seems that way to you because you do not connect up with the hive mind.



campboy92
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 1 Nov 2014
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 197

03 Dec 2014, 11:36 am

What's the hive mind



dianthus
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 25 Nov 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,138

03 Dec 2014, 11:47 am

I wouldn't call this being unable to tell if something is good or bad. You know if it is good or bad to you. Your tastes just differ from the mainstream.



olympiadis
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jun 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,849
Location: Fairview Heights Illinois

03 Dec 2014, 11:52 am

campboy92 wrote:
What's the hive mind



Group Think. It's a system intelligence in a society that is expressed in memetics. It's a large group of ideas/algorithms that have evolved collectively, and not in any one individual.

One feature of the hive mind is the application of pressure to conform.
Look up Asch Conformity test on youtube.



Protogenoi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 817

03 Dec 2014, 12:05 pm

Taste can be rather varied. Many people would say the music I like sucks too. But it doesn't (And Cobain would agree with me. 8) )




It sounds like your friends are ignorant and arrogant. To criticize music based on personal taste is stupid. I respect quite a few music groups I can't stand because I recognize them as good artists even though my taste doesn't align to theirs. There are also groups I don't respect as artists that I can't stand too, but I try to justify that with objective facts, like their music is warehouse (this refers to the Pop Music industry method of using large teams of people to write music and then fitting the music on the artist they think the music would go best with.) When music is warehouse made, it doesn't qualify the so called musician/star abilities nor does is it an expression of themselves.


_________________
Now take a trip with me but don't be surprised when things aren't what they seem. I've known it from the start all these good ideas will tear your brain apart. Scared, but you can follow me. I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. - a7x


mr_bigmouth_502
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Dec 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 7,028
Location: Alberta, Canada

04 Dec 2014, 4:37 pm

^I've never actually heard the original version of "Lake of Fire" before. It's pretty neat, a lot more "raw" than Nirvana's acoustic rendition. I'd say it has like a Led Zeppelin-meets-punk edge to it. I'll admit that I still like Nirvana's version better, but the Meat Puppets did a pretty bang-up job. 8)



progaspie
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Jul 2011
Age: 71
Gender: Male
Posts: 673
Location: Australia

05 Dec 2014, 3:08 am

Nothing replaces experience and you will find as you get older that the things you liked when you were younger no longer interest you. Nothing wrong with that. You develop your own taste in things which differs with someone else's taste in things. There's no right or wrong answers but it helps to concentrate on the things that you like or order to develop your own tastes based on your own experiences. The worse thing you can do is accept what others tell you because whatever they tell you is based on their own limited experience and predujices.