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14 Dec 2014, 11:10 pm

I have noticed in the last year that I seem to be more NT then HFA. I have been laughing at NT jokes and pranks. How is this possible? I think I may be having a mental break down. I have a co-worker that is taking a photo of one of the other co-workers that is far from attractive and is hanging it up in the lab. When she finds it she tares it up and throws it away. Then the other co-worker tapes it back together and puts it back on the wall. It is a mean thing to do to someone but for some reason I find it hilarious. I'm either not doing well mentally or I'm somehow acting more like a NT.


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14 Dec 2014, 11:41 pm

HFA and NT behaviour aren't incompatible.

There are no rules on what you find funny.


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15 Dec 2014, 12:06 am

The bigger question is, is it ok to diagnose yourself as NT?



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15 Dec 2014, 12:10 am

wozeree wrote:
The bigger question is, is it ok to diagnose yourself as NT?


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15 Dec 2014, 12:39 am

I was diagnosed as an aspie when I was young, and had my diagnosis re-affirmed recently when I saw a neuropsychologist, but I've still noticed that I'm more "NT" in a lot of ways now than I was when I was younger. Of course, I've also regressed a bit too; I was probably at my most "NT" when I was 16-17 years old.



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15 Dec 2014, 4:46 am

Deb1970 wrote:
I have a co-worker that is taking a photo of one of the other co-workers that is far from attractive and is hanging it up in the lab.


That alone was enough to make me smile.
I don't know why, but the way Aspies express their views about certain things always seems to make me giggle.



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15 Dec 2014, 5:21 am

I suggest, that you laugh, because you can see the baroque side of the situation, even if it is bullying of the other co worker. It is your humour working - besides, few people are pure aspie or pure NT. We have both sides to some extent and can make use of it, - and aspie does not mean humourless or overly fair.


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15 Dec 2014, 6:20 am

The only major differences between AS and NT are those specified in diagnostic material, and perhaps a little more that is yet to be discovered (in a non-technical sense).

I would think that the structural differences that make a brain autistic are not as large as some people make them out to be. It's not as if we're a different species, we all have human brains. It's also unknown actually what the autistic brain is born with, rather than how the brain develops based on the different experience (as does happen with other many other disorders).

If you edit even one character in a piece of code, the effects can be massive, as any programmer would know.

I think that autistics are 'more NT' than they think. TBH that doesn't really make sense, because the term NT is only used to define the differences of the autistic brain VS a non-autistic brain.

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15 Dec 2014, 6:35 am

It's possible you may have matured. I'm the same with my social skills. I can be quite social with random people, depending on my mood. However, as a child though, I hardly ever communicated with my peers. I believe that as I got older with my parents support, I matured in most social aspects of life.


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15 Dec 2014, 7:01 am

I just don't believe you can be autistic today and NT tomorrow. I don't even believe someone can be half autistic or even a mild aspie (as people have stated in other threads). I believe either you are one thing or the other and not shades of both.
Let's use a motor car analogy and pretend that NT's are a Holden motor car and autistics are a Ford motor car. You can change the chassis and the engine of the Ford motor car, but the Ford will always be a Ford and the Holden will always be a Holden. You can have higher model Fords (AS, ASD, HFA), or lower model Fords (LFA), but the divisions between the different model Fords will be affected by how well serviced the different model Fords are. A lower model Ford could outperform a higher model Ford if it is finely tuned and regularly serviced, just as a higher model Ford can run itself down if it is not well serviced.
For someone who knows nothing about cars, a Holden motor car might just as well be a Ford motor car. You could change the emblem on the car bonnet of the Ford to a Holden emblem and pretend that your Ford car is a Holden, but then you're only fooling yourself.



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15 Dec 2014, 7:20 am

I believe the two things, NT and ASD are not mutually exclusive, and a person with ASD also has NT functions as well. ASD does not change the entire brain, just parts or aspects. This might be untrue in the most severest cases only, which are few compared to the entire amount on the spectrum.

I also think of the spectrum as not only a division along a line of types, but as also a vague indicator of differences in depth.

I don't believe the end result, as we experience things is fixed. I have always noted rises and falls in more ASD or NT periods. At times I felt quite NT. It never lasts though.

I would have to call it therefore synergic, a constant ebb and flow between the two.



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15 Dec 2014, 7:31 am

Deb1970 wrote:
I have noticed in the last year that I seem to be more NT then HFA. I have been laughing at NT jokes and pranks. How is this possible? I think I may be having a mental break down. I have a co-worker that is taking a photo of one of the other co-workers that is far from attractive and is hanging it up in the lab. When she finds it she tares it up and throws it away. Then the other co-worker tapes it back together and puts it back on the wall. It is a mean thing to do to someone but for some reason I find it hilarious. I'm either not doing well mentally or I'm somehow acting more like a NT.


There is no reason why someone on the Spectrum cannot have a sense of humor. I have always been able to follow irony in movies, books and jokes told by someone. I just don't follow it very well when someone is trying to tell me something indirectly whether through irony or some other indirect way.

However that business of posting a picture of somebody just to hurt them is not funny. It is just evil.


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15 Dec 2014, 9:06 am

That's a hot one: self-diagnosis as NT!! !!

Seriously: My view is that autistic people are humans, too, and often laugh at the same things that "NT's" laugh it. One of the "disorders" in autism is "social processing." This basically means that we don't process social information/cues as well in "real time" as "NT's". There's often no disorder in discerning obvious humor itself--only, perhaps, irony and sarcasm. What you described is obvious, blatant humor, which even the densest person will laugh at.



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15 Dec 2014, 9:31 am

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I just don't believe you can be autistic today and NT tomorrow. I don't even believe someone can be half autistic or even a mild aspie (as people have stated in other threads). I believe either you are one thing or the other and not shades of both.
Let's use a motor car analogy and pretend that NT's are a Holden motor car and autistics are a Ford motor car. You can change the chassis and the engine of the Ford motor car, but the Ford will always be a Ford and the Holden will always be a Holden. You can have higher model Fords (AS, ASD, HFA), or lower model Fords (LFA), but the divisions between the different model Fords will be affected by how well serviced the different model Fords are. A lower model Ford could outperform a higher model Ford if it is finely tuned and regularly serviced, just as a higher model Ford can run itself down if it is not well serviced.
For someone who knows nothing about cars, a Holden motor car might just as well be a Ford motor car. You could change the emblem on the car bonnet of the Ford to a Holden emblem and pretend that your Ford car is a Holden, but then you're only fooling yourself.


You gotta remember... Autism is a spectrum. Think more like a rainbow or a color chart. Each one has a huge spectrum of colors, so one person could have mild autism/AS while another could have severe autism/AS. It doesn't really matter what their severity might be. Autism is a spectrum of things, and it's still being figured out even today.


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15 Dec 2014, 10:05 am

Norny wrote:
wozeree wrote:
The bigger question is, is it ok to diagnose yourself as NT?


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"And then deb realizes.... There is no escape from the HFA diagnosis!" *maniacal laugh*



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15 Dec 2014, 1:45 pm

wozeree wrote:
The bigger question is, is it ok to diagnose yourself as NT?


(That did give me a chuckle. :lol:)