Why call someone pretentious when they relate to something?

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14 Dec 2014, 12:38 pm

It makes no sense to me. If someone on the aspd spectrum feels very incredibly lonely in the world and they happen to read about some of the geniuses who were apparently autistic, and they relate to their qualities and feel some camaraderie in the most human innocent way possible. You don't say to that person "you are so pretentious, you are trying to be a genius, you sound like a ret*d or idiot" - you go: "wow that's cool how you share qualities with this person that must make you feel less alone, it's interesting how they had such a hard life too"
You know? I'm sick of people not having compassion or mistaking pure intentions for deluding narcissism.... It sucks so bad.



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14 Dec 2014, 2:15 pm

Because they haven't walked a mile in your shoes...


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14 Dec 2014, 2:38 pm

thank you for reminding me



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14 Dec 2014, 7:18 pm

I sort of know this one, people can be very closed minded, comparing yourself to genuises can only mean to some people that you think that you are as genuis as them, which of course sounds like you are a raving narcissist, lol.

Very narrow minded and presumptous.

If theyd taken the time to ask you why you felt like that, or at least explored your rationalisation, and knew anything at all about the individualistic differences and challenges of many so called genuises as well as those of people on the spectrum, they would have been able to agree with you as its a valid point.

But dont make the mistake that intelligent people are all wise, caring or even knowledgeable in the same areas as you, and work to find caring people to share your personal thoughts with.

I know what you mean, and many, if not all geniused are on the spectrum somewhere, but there also other people who can be more understanding you just have to find them.

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14 Dec 2014, 11:26 pm

It might be the way you're coming across - you know, those of us on the spectrum do seem to have the habit to be misunderstood easily by people. You may be stating it in a way that makes you sound pretentious, even if you aren't meaning to. This is something I know I tend to do a lot of the time, so it's something I have to work really hard on.

And of course, there's also the possibility that it has nothing to do with you. Some people just seem to have extreme bias about some topics... intelligence (since people define "genius" in so many different ways) is definitely one of those. Of course, it's wrong for them to insult you by calling you a "ret*d." That's just rude. :/


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15 Dec 2014, 2:17 pm

campboy92 wrote:
It makes no sense to me. If someone on the aspd spectrum feels very incredibly lonely in the world and they happen to read about some of the geniuses who were apparently autistic, and they relate to their qualities and feel some camaraderie in the most human innocent way possible. You don't say to that person "you are so pretentious, you are trying to be a genius, you sound like a ret*d or idiot" - you go: "wow that's cool how you share qualities with this person that must make you feel less alone, it's interesting how they had such a hard life too"
You know? I'm sick of people not having compassion or mistaking pure intentions for deluding narcissism.... It sucks so bad.



Because their observations are automatically (subconsciously) processed within their own context of hierarchies.
To them, you would not say such things unless you intended on placing yourself above them within hierarchies, - you are better than they are.

They really can't consider things in other contexts outside of their own box.
So, basically, you are better than they are in that regard.
You are lesser than they are when it comes to living within hierarchies.