AS = "psychiatric" ?

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Claradoon
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10 Mar 2007, 7:22 pm

Is AS a psychiatric problem? I'm diagnosed as psychiatric with major depression. I'd like to lose the 'psychiatric' label; it makes so much trouble. But would AS be different or would I still have 'psychiatric' all over me?

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10 Mar 2007, 7:48 pm

Claradoon wrote:

AS is a neurological difference - not a psychiatric issue - although it's often accompanied by co-morbids like ADHD, depression, anxiety, dyslexia. It's your depression, not the AS that has got you the psychiatric label. Sorry that you have depression - it's no wonder though.

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10 Mar 2007, 7:53 pm

So could I end up somehow with a "neurological disability" rather than a "psychiatric disability"? The instant I was labeled psychiatric, nobody believed me anymore about anything. Especially doctors, government people etc. It's not fair.

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10 Mar 2007, 7:55 pm

No, and "psychiatric" is not an official label. Someone owes you an explanation

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10 Mar 2007, 8:02 pm

Claradoon wrote:

No, it's a neurological DIFFERENCE - refer them to Simon Baron Cohen on this. Society creates the disabilities - not the person who is DIFFERENTLY ABLED.

Like Noetic says, no one is 'psychiatric' per se. Are you talking though about the barely hidden discrimination against people with depression, anxiety/mental illness??

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10 Mar 2007, 8:04 pm

The Dx is Major Depression. But the label is the word psychiatric. For example, if I showed up at the Emergency with appendicitis, nobody would treat me until a psychiatrist authorized it. Also, once I went to a new family doctor and he looked at the referral slip and he yelled, "Oh no! Not psychiatric! I hate psychiatric!" And he treated me like dirt and refused to prescribe etc etc until finally I got a nurse to help me find a doctor ...

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10 Mar 2007, 8:22 pm

Claradoon wrote:

The shrinks have labeled it under their realm even though they know it's a Neurological condition. You can thank that for your insurance being iffy about covering diagnosis and the lack of real research regarding our brains. They need to move it to Neurology where it belongs. Depression is a different issue entirely although it can be co-morbid.

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10 Mar 2007, 8:36 pm

Aha! I think that's the answer. So long as it's still in the DSM-IV, the psychiatric label will stick. Rats. If only I'd been born much later. But then, at least I wasn't born much earlier.

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10 Mar 2007, 8:45 pm

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But then, at least I wasn't born much earlier.

You'd be OLD, for starters

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10 Mar 2007, 8:56 pm

Noetic wrote:

Claradoon wrote:

But then, at least I wasn't born much earlier.

You'd be OLD, for starters

OLDer!

Mom was born 1916, can you imagine being aspie then?

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10 Mar 2007, 8:59 pm

keyblade wrote:

man I would go crazy(er) if no one believed me that I was sick or something else was wrong no wonder your depressed sometimes I think NTs are just trying to make me angry and depressed and I think your situation is the same maybe even worse much much worse

Yes! You've got it absolutely right. It's an adversarial system. I was suicidal, really. And then my good angel showed up - a psychiatric nurse. I'll be okay now, as long as she's still running interference between me and the system. God bless her. I wish such an angel on everyone.
p.s. Of course the docs would say that this means the system works! Arg!!

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10 Mar 2007, 9:27 pm

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That REALLY sucks. Poor you. What a bastard GP. Do you have a complaints system where youare?This IS blatant discrimination.

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10 Mar 2007, 9:31 pm

Claradoon wrote:

keyblade wrote:

Yeah, the system works DESPITE them, not because of them.

A senior nurse asked me the other day (when I was telling her about a similar problem with a dork GP) whether I realised that I was much more intelligent than him. I was knocked for six! Relative intelligence hadn't crossed my mind, nor that he was feeling so inadequate.

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10 Mar 2007, 9:33 pm

The shrinks have labeled it under their realm even though they know it's a Neurological condition. [/quote]

Hmmm...wonder why...? Wouldn't have anything at all to do with money and power...? Surely not....

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10 Mar 2007, 9:49 pm

A step in the right direction would be to get it labeled correctly under neurological condition.

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10 Mar 2007, 9:54 pm

AmbientRainbow wrote:

Claradoon wrote:

That REALLY sucks. Poor you. What a bastard GP. Do you have a complaints system where youare?This IS blatant discrimination.

It's across the board! Who to complain to? There's the College of Physicians, all of whom react the same way. Entire hospitals react that way. There's no exit, except getting rid of the P word.

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