Do you not believe in the labels of sexuality/gender?

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18 Dec 2014, 1:44 am

I think everything is fluid, we are just assigned these things but maybe it is we who have a choice to step back and be like hmmm well everyone deserves to be equal but maybe it's not black and white. It's more of a gradient or spectrum, gender and sexuality... So who cares



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18 Dec 2014, 1:48 am

I don't believe sexuality is a choice, same with gender. By gender I mean if someone is born into the wrong body, it's not a choice that they feel like another person who is the same gender who was born into the correct anatomy, per-say. Sexuality is the same way, you are born that way. No one chooses their sexuality, it's ludicrous that the majority of the world still believes that.

Myself, I'm straight and pro-LGBT+QA rights.



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18 Dec 2014, 2:01 am

I refer to myself as gay, but that generally implies that I am only attracted to men. That's not true, but my natural preference favours men significantly, so there's no point labeling myself as bi-sexual, despite that technically being more accurate.

You can say the same about most labels:

. Introversion/extroversion is an example used on this forum. Rarely would a person be introverted or extroverted under every circumstance. The term ambiversion was coined to resolve this but like bisexual, can't confine the fluid nature of a spectrum. A person just adopts the label that they feel best fits them, the majority of the time.

. Autistic and neurotypical are other examples. Autism is a spectrum but the one label is used to define all those from LFA to HFA, and even those who may not truly have autism but another condition(s) that presents as autism does. Neurotypical is the greater offender, one single label attempting to contain a gigantic amount of the world's population. Scientifically it makes no sense unless used in conjunction with an experimental group, by which the term is used variably, as in one study NT may refer to those without ADHD, but in another, those without autism, but potentially with ADHD. Colloquially it's easy to use for the sake of simplicity, but it is often forgotten that those classified as NT are not clones. You would have a similar result referring to all computers, cars and other devices as 'technology', without any division.


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18 Dec 2014, 2:39 am

It's like when people call me introverted or anti social, it pisses me off because they don't understand I actually desire and want to have a big external life but the world around me isn't compatible with the way my brain works which I've accepted but just the assumption that you can be black and white
Anti social or fully social is annoying
There's a spectrum or gradient

I mean I was born into this world thinking gay and transgender people are normal so when I saw a label on them it kind of confused me Because to me they are just humans



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18 Dec 2014, 4:06 am

I believe that some people fit into boxes and some don't. It really pisses me off when people think that no one fits into boxes or everyone does. I think both of those views are equally black and white.


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18 Dec 2014, 6:22 am

I think the labels that do exist are more guidelines to help you identify what it is you really are. Not just as simply as gay, straight or bi, there's a hundred different more in detail labels to identify as, pansexuality, asexuality etc etc. Same deal with gender. Either way, I think other people clearly need to be more understanding of those who don't feel they fit the typical mold of straight and (insert birth gender here) because a lot of people do not.


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18 Dec 2014, 1:56 pm

andrethemoogle wrote:
I don't believe sexuality is a choice, same with gender. By gender I mean if someone is born into the wrong body, it's not a choice that they feel like another person who is the same gender who was born into the correct anatomy, per-say. Sexuality is the same way, you are born that way. No one chooses their sexuality, it's ludicrous that the majority of the world still believes that.

What often gets overlooked is that sexual orientation has multiple attributes. Many of which are "spectrums" where a person may occupy a narrow or broad part.



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18 Dec 2014, 9:21 pm

Gender is the essence of the reproductive method of the species. Most people are bound to be slaves to their DNA's reproductive mechanism, because it runs in families, it's the reason we're all here.

I think it's a mistake to get too gender-binary about it though. The above is obviously only true for the mainstream.



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18 Dec 2014, 9:33 pm

Norny wrote:
I refer to myself as gay, but that generally implies that I am only attracted to men. That's not true, but my natural preference favours men significantly, so there's no point labeling myself as bi-sexual, despite that technically being more accurate.


I'm largely the same, but I sometimes wonder if my sexuality is fluid between being "gay" and "mostly gay"... At the same time I sometimes wonder if the times I feel "mostly gay" could be due to internalised homophobia or my desire to some day have kids of my own... I'm also worried that if I called myself "Bi" that people might then think I have a choice, which would be especially damaging if I was indeed exclusively gay but confused.


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18 Dec 2014, 10:11 pm

I believe that gender is a spectrum. Not everybody fits into little boxes. I wanted to grow up to be big and strong when I was little. I got my wish there. I would make comments about boney armed women sleeping with muscular men in bed on soap operas, saying that I would never turn out to be like that woman at the age of 9. I'm blessed that I've turned out to look like the heavyweight of my favourite band.


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18 Dec 2014, 10:19 pm

campboy92 wrote:
I think everything is fluid, we are just assigned these things but maybe it is we who have a choice to step back and be like hmmm well everyone deserves to be equal but maybe it's not black and white. It's more of a gradient or spectrum, gender and sexuality... So who cares


I agree 100%. So many kids post on the teen forum asking what their sexuality label should be. "I do/think such and such, does that make me gay?". A lot of us say what you said and don't need to label yourself. Especially when you're only like 13!



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18 Dec 2014, 10:33 pm

I have no problem with Gay, Lesbian, or Transgender people; however, I find the extreme of this idea to be extremely unpleasing. They base their ideas on some unproven pseudo science which in the end harms some of these people.



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18 Dec 2014, 10:37 pm

I think both are a spectrum.

I believe biological sex, sexual orientation and gender are all distinct things.

I am a male, I'm asexual and I'm not quite sure about my gender identity, but I think I'd consider myself gender-fluid. Meaning, I don't feel like I fit only the masculine gender binary.


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18 Dec 2014, 10:45 pm

To be honest, I like women who look and act like some semblance of a woman. I don't mean that a woman has to be a girly-girly-girl or whatever. I like a little femininity, though.

I'm a guy who always feels like a guy, even when I feel vulnerable. When I'm vulnerable, I'm vulnerable as a guy.

I have nothing against people who feel differently--gender fluid and all that.