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28 Dec 2014, 1:39 pm

My New Year resolution (I know that sounds stupid but I like to improve myself) is to apply logic to all situations in order to get through life.

I find most emotions unmanageable and they take up time which could be spent doing something useful.

Obviously happiness and pleasure are good, but I can sometimes get too happy to the point of hypomania.

Logic is the solution. I will be logical.

Any advice on how to maintain this will be much appreciated.


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28 Dec 2014, 1:54 pm

Make a resolution to learn to regulate your emotions, try to get help in that area of regulation and reducing problem behaviors caused by emotions.


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28 Dec 2014, 2:19 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
Make a resolution to learn to regulate your emotions, try to get help in that area of regulation and reducing problem behaviors caused by emotions.


I will try to focus on that for now.


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28 Dec 2014, 2:28 pm

Gosh! I'm still struggling with this one myself. I find that if I try to put emotional situations in to perspective it helps.

I cannot begin to explain how I go about this but I do know that it takes a lot of careful thought. However it has helped me to deal with situations that I at one time would've contemplated suicide over or completely lost my marbles.

It's a long road my friend but I know you'll get there.

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28 Dec 2014, 2:31 pm

Thank you.

I will concentrate on reducing each emotion one by one. First emotion I will try to reduce is irrational worry.

I do not welcome emotions in my life but my early human instincts still attack me.


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28 Dec 2014, 3:01 pm

I can see the benefit of gaining control over emotions, but the first post seems to indicate doing that by trying to dismiss emotion, which I wouldn't advise.



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28 Dec 2014, 3:31 pm

This is curious. I've known a couple of people who have tasked themselves with this lofty goal, mainly pointing at me as their example. They asked the same question as you. How do they become more logical. It was usually after what I will call a trigger event. Death of someone, major failure in life, or a cumulative effect of several periods of mishaps. Each one was hell bent on not experiencing that trigger again and thought being logical would ease their burden(s).

The truth is that as they tried, and they all did to individual extents, they actually got worse at it. One in particular, ignored her basic nature and tried so hard that she would fabricate the situation to apply to the logic she deemed. (Became delusional) Anyone or anything that tested her perception was quickly dismissed and or exiled based on the severity of the questioning of the perspective.

This, for her, was the result of trying to repress negative emotions rather than deal with them in a fashion more suitable to her style of cognition. It eventually placed her in a very bad situation that she is still in today, yet she is so far into her delusions now she can't see it and the ones who try to say otherwise are being illogical and selfish (in her mind).

My suggestion and the one that makes the most sense towards achieving your goals is to seek out a therapist/spiritual advisor/friend/relative you trust to help you work through what it is that has lead you to believe that being more logical will help solve your problems.



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28 Dec 2014, 4:02 pm

Thank you for your wise posts everyone.

I will be bringing this up with my care coordinator when I see her on the 2nd of January.

I agree that repressing emotions is maybe not a good idea and that learning how to manage them is a superior aim.


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28 Dec 2014, 11:51 pm

Applying logic doesn't usually help calm any irrational emotional responses I have. Maybe it works for other people but it doesn't for me. It might not work for you.


Here's an example:

I'll get on the bus and immediately feel like I'm being stared at which will give me the feeling that I'm being judged negatively. Reminding myself that the people on the bus don't even know me and couldn't care less about me doesn't relieve the feeling of being scrutinized. I feel like I'm being judged negatively by others even when I know intellectually that I'm not. The feeling of being judged will lead me to avoid eye contact with them. I'm uncomfortable with them judging me and I try to make myself small and unnoticeable so that they'll stop staring. It doesn't matter how many times I remind myself that nobody cares about me. My emotional response is still the same.



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29 Dec 2014, 1:47 am

I realise why you would want to do this, but it will be hard to maintain; NTs are inherently illogical beings.

You might want to check up on some characters in 'Star Trek'. Mainly Spock, Data and T'Pol. Those three use the same methods and are placed there to show the issues a purely logical outlook on humans can generate



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29 Dec 2014, 3:30 am

btbnnyr wrote:
Make a resolution to learn to regulate your emotions, try to get help in that area of regulation and reducing problem behaviors caused by emotions.


And to help do this, logically, if I were you I'd read these two books. (I've already read them.)

http://www.amazon.com/Power-Now-Guide-S ... hart+tolle

http://www.amazon.com/New-Earth-Awakeni ... hart+tolle


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29 Dec 2014, 2:39 pm

Best thing I heard over the holidays was on Downton Abbey where granny says: "If you don't control your own emotions, they will control you".

I'm a big fan of emotional control and it has taken decades of practice to become halfwise good at it. It just takes practice, practice, practice.

Spock is my hero - actually the whole Vulcan race is my hero.

It all revolves around being able to detach oneself from one's own situation and look at things from the outside inwards with cool detachment.

Good luck Steel Maiden - I think you're heading down the correct path with your new resolution.

Take care :D


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29 Dec 2014, 5:28 pm

SteelMaiden wrote:
My New Year resolution (I know that sounds stupid but I like to improve myself) is to apply logic to all situations in order to get through life.

I find most emotions unmanageable and they take up time which could be spent doing something useful.

Obviously happiness and pleasure are good, but I can sometimes get too happy to the point of hypomania.

Logic is the solution. I will be logical.

Any advice on how to maintain this will be much appreciated.


When I was younger, I decided to dispense with all emotions choosing logic over them (I was REALLY into Mr. Spock!)

I started doing logic puzzles and reading about logic. I'd quote 'Spockisms' in real life. I could really relate to him on account that he was just so different to everyone else on the Enterprise.

I liked the way he approached issues, cool, calm, in control. Everyone else would be in a panic and Spock would just take control of the situation.

But the truth be known, it's not easy to do because we are animals with emotions and they can be bloody hard to suppress. I don't show much emotion on the outside though. I never have.


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29 Dec 2014, 6:49 pm

And there's no such thing as Vulcans.

The great thing about Spock: sometimes, he did show his humanity.

If somebody feels a preponderance of logic in his/her life will enable him/her to succeed, then I'm all for it.

Personally, I think logic in the syllogistic sense stems from medieval ideas. They have their place, but they don't provide us with "truth."

The ideal situation, from a research standpoint, IMHO, is when results from peer-reviewed, double blind, etc. studies are combined with anecdote.



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30 Dec 2014, 5:23 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
And there's no such thing as Vulcans.


Unfortunately kraftiekortie. :(


kraftiekortie wrote:
The great thing about Spock: sometimes, he did show his humanity.


That was the thorn in his side, wasn't it! He was half-human. He's doing better than me! :)


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30 Dec 2014, 9:44 am

You sound like an NT! Yes, use logic.