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Regardless, you can eat my share of glyphosate if you want it. 
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03 Jan 2015, 5:31 pm
What's interesting is that no one ever discusses the fact that all of the "glyphosate is harmless" studies have been conducted over very short time frames, i.e. 3 months, vs. anyone publishing the long term effects or compound effects of glyphosate over time. The one study done on rats over a longer period showed massive cancerous tumours developed.. but then the study apparently had to be retracted for lack of proper documentation or somethingerother - ok fine - but IMO that warrants further study over longer periods of time to see what the long term effects of this stuff are. Guaranteed there have been many "safe and approved" chemical compounds commonly used that were later found to be harmful to humans and then pulled from the consumer marketplace. Lead based paint, anyone? etc. IMO glyphosate is another one of those things - only Monsanto is so wealthy and powerful that the truth of it's effects on people may never be known. Personally, I'll take my chances with the "evils" of as much organic food as I can vs. GMO's & glyphosate. Everyone else is free to to as they please, of course.
Also, there have been many horror stories posted online about farmers experiencing terrible neurological affects from roundup and other herbicides/pesticides. Surely these people are all fabricating stories of how they got all F'kd up, yeah?
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03 Jan 2015, 5:34 pm
Fnord wrote:
I can correlate the change from pure copper pennies to their current aluminum-core construction with the apparent increase in the number of Autism cases since the mid-1960s.
I can also correlate the apparent rise in Autism cases with the increase in the use of television as a medium of entertainment.
There is also correlation between the apparent rise in Autism cases with the increased use of technology in general, especially home computers, cell phones, tablets, and other computer-based devices.
Why pick on only Monsanto?
I can also correlate the apparent rise in Autism cases with the increase in the use of television as a medium of entertainment.
There is also correlation between the apparent rise in Autism cases with the increased use of technology in general, especially home computers, cell phones, tablets, and other computer-based devices.
Why pick on only Monsanto?
Because only Monsanto is remotely plausible compared to your other examples?
I also pick on Big Pharma and the overuse of antibiotics, too. So, it's not just Monsanto.
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Fnord wrote:
I can correlate the change from pure copper pennies to their current aluminum-core construction with the apparent increase in the number of Autism cases since the mid-1960s.
Some say aluminum is vaccines causes autism and aren't copper bracelets supposed to have healing powers according to some quacks? Careful, you might give people some crazy ideas
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03 Jan 2015, 6:27 pm
andrethemoogle wrote:
When you say overuse of antibiotics, are you referring to that in a medical sense or something else?
Because antibiotics are a very helpful drug (I should know, as I've been on them plenty of times in my life due to ear infections, strep throat and other infections)
Because antibiotics are a very helpful drug (I should know, as I've been on them plenty of times in my life due to ear infections, strep throat and other infections)
Of course in a medical sense.
I, too, have been on them MANY times in my life for ear infections, strep throat, tonsillitis, acne, other infections etc. And if you've ever read my story you'd know that I believe consuming so many antibiotics and so few probiotics in my life is a major contributing cause to the intestinal dysbiosis that exacerbated my ASD symptoms to the nth degree. That's why I've been able to successfully treat my symptoms via diet/herbal cleansing & probiotics. It's also why symptoms relapsed in October 2014 when I took a strong course of antibiotics. I didn't fully realize it until I received feedback from others about my behaviour that was a list of ASD symptoms. I went hardcore on the herbal cleansing & probiotics again and have since made a significant recovery and am back to being happier and better balanced, far less nervous & more socially intuitive - a lot less "idiot" and a little more "savant."
If you haven't ever read my story as I shared in on WP last January, feel free to PM me and I'll send it to you via email. You can have a read and then feel free to pass judgement and/or discuss to your heart's content.
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03 Jan 2015, 6:49 pm
andrethemoogle wrote:
I don't get how antibiotics can affect your mental status. I have not read any medical claims that they do that. They are designed to fight an infection, which clearly wouldn't affect your mood. The only side-effect to antibiotics I've had is having more bowel movements during a day, which is common for basically anyone that has to take them.
A lot of this herbal medicine and alternative stuff is pseudo-science the majority of the time, with no proven benefits, much like acupuncture and stuff like that. Some of the herbs even interact with medications or can provide an unwanted mental status for someone, making them feel worse than they do.
A lot of this herbal medicine and alternative stuff is pseudo-science the majority of the time, with no proven benefits, much like acupuncture and stuff like that. Some of the herbs even interact with medications or can provide an unwanted mental status for someone, making them feel worse than they do.
Science has just been discovering how probiotics affect mental status, as we've been discussing on the forum for the last year or so. Antibiotics kill off probiotics in the gut and effect neurological function of the enteric nervous system that covers the entire digestive tract. The gut is now being called "the second brain" as more signals are sent from the gut to the brain than the brain to the gut. Also, most of our main neurotransmitters are produced in the gut.
Antibiotics are designed to fight bacterial infection, yes, but what they also do is kill off beneficial microflora probiotic bacteria in our digestive tracts that then has a major effect on our neurological functions & mood. The only side effects of antibiotics that you've had that you're consciously aware of are increased bowel movements. I'd bet money I don't have that you've had other side effects.
I've read that in China & Russia, various probiotics are prescribed along with antibiotics in order to rebalance the gut and keep people happy and healthy when they have to take antibiotics for an infection. Here in Canada and the USA, not so much. I've only ever had a pharmacist or doctor suggest probiotics alongside antibiotics once or twice in my life - almost never. I believe this is basically out of ignorance. They don't know what they don't know and thus don't know to suggest/recommend/prescribe etc.
This "herbal stuff" has been how humans and animals have consumed medicine for thousands of years to heal themselves. Antibiotics and pharmaceutical medicines (almost all of which are derived chemical compounds from plants) are a relatively new thing over the last hundred years or so. Some herbs interact with other herbs, too, just as some foods do etc. Just like any medicine, whether pharmaceutical or food or herbs etc people have to consume them appropriately in order for them to be beneficial. The right dose, the right method, the right combination etc.
Also, we've discussed a bit of this recently in another thread. Here's a couple posts we exchanged and some links to probiotics being used to treat Autism:
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andrethemoogle wrote:
Actually when you're quoting pseudo-science and women who have no science background, that does make you a liar and spreading potentially harmful information.
If you support Autism $peaks, then I have no words.
Also, who the hell are you to say the world shouldn't accommodate you? Are you being for real now? And with the pro-bacteria crap, no one here believes that besides you. I'm sorry to sound rude, but no one believes in that stuff. Not everyone wants to be a neurotypical either or have all their symptoms "treated".
If you support Autism $peaks, then I have no words.
Also, who the hell are you to say the world shouldn't accommodate you? Are you being for real now? And with the pro-bacteria crap, no one here believes that besides you. I'm sorry to sound rude, but no one believes in that stuff. Not everyone wants to be a neurotypical either or have all their symptoms "treated".
Have you listened to her two hour presentation that I posted?
Of course I support Autism Speaks, they do good work.
I am me, that's who. And that is my opinion, which I am entitled to. The entire world isn't going to learn hundreds of ASD traits in order to recognize and forgive and accommodate for them when autistics make blunders in life and work or have sensory issues etc. It has not & simply is not going to do so. The only realistic solution is for the autistic person to treat/manage/minimize their symptoms by whatever means works for them in order to better fit into the world around them. I know for myself that this is working fantastically. I'm happier, healthier, and wealthier for it. I am 100% real about this.
Really? "No one believes in that stuff." Hmm, what about these people - and this is just the first page of google hits:
http://www.autismspeaks.org/science/sci ... ics-autism
http://www.autismspeaks.org/science/sci ... ouse-model
http://treatautism.ca/biomedical-treatm ... robiotics/
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... -bacteria/
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-autism/
http://www.caltech.edu/news/probiotic-t ... mice-41306
http://www.optibacprobiotics.co.uk/live ... for-autism
http://www.nature.com/news/bacterium-ca ... ce-1.14308
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/0 ... 92838.html
Again, I'm not NT & don't reeeeally want to be completely NT, either, because I do enjoy some of my beneficial AS traits. I like being able to utilize them in my life and at work. But I also like being able to work and fit into the world well enough to be decently successful by societal standards as it allows me a better quality of life all around.
Again, like I said earlier, if there are treatments available to minimize the negative impact of ASD on your life and you refuse to consider them because you're truly happy with who and what/how you are, then that's your choice to make - but you, and others, shouldn't expect the world to bend over backwards to accommodate you. If there's an option to successfully treat your symptoms in a way that works for you and whatever causes your symptoms and you refuse it, that's the choice your making - and IMO you ought to accept all of the challenges & difficulties that come along with it vs. expect for some strange reason that everyone around you is going to treat you like a special snowflake and make sure you get through life & work ok. For those that choose this path, right on.. have at life however you want. But for those who say they're anti-treatment yet complain about difficulties with work/life/socialization/relationships etc - well, IMO your whining ought to fall on deaf ears because at that point the state you're in is one you're choosing to remain in & IMO you get to deal with everything that comes along with it and no one else should be expected to go out of their way to make sure you're succeeding. That's simply not the way of the world - never has been, never will be. The reality of the world is that "might is right," and it's the "survival of the fittest." Those who can do & achieve, win and be successful etc will, and those who cannot.. well, won't.
Again, if you haven't read my story and care to, feel free to pm me whenever you like.
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03 Jan 2015, 7:13 pm
andrethemoogle wrote:
China and Russia, two countries that practice folk medicine still the last time I checked and have awful medical coverage and facilities (may I remind you of mental institutions in Russia and the persecution of individuals who are disabled, among other minorities?)
Also, I've had other side effects? Um, nope. Increased bowel movements and that's it. Sorry if I don't buy your theory of having a second brain, as we only have one, unless you have two heads. Plus, how are more signals sent to the gut than the brain? Considering the brain governs the functions of pretty much EVERYTHING that we do, I fail to see how that point is relevant.
It's not ignorance to not prescribe pro-biotics, as there isn't enough evidence to prove that they are useful for those with personality disorders. The only thing I've seen is horses**t pseudo-science links and people who have a degree in something unrelated to medical profession claiming to know stuff about Autism, when they don't.
Also, I've had other side effects? Um, nope. Increased bowel movements and that's it. Sorry if I don't buy your theory of having a second brain, as we only have one, unless you have two heads. Plus, how are more signals sent to the gut than the brain? Considering the brain governs the functions of pretty much EVERYTHING that we do, I fail to see how that point is relevant.
It's not ignorance to not prescribe pro-biotics, as there isn't enough evidence to prove that they are useful for those with personality disorders. The only thing I've seen is horses**t pseudo-science links and people who have a degree in something unrelated to medical profession claiming to know stuff about Autism, when they don't.
..compared to America which spends the most amount of money per capita on health care in the world & yet has some of the unhealthiest people in the world. The (North) American medical system isn't perfect. That's not to say the Chinese or Russians have perfect medical systems, either, but they at least get the probiotics with antibiotics thing right.
Like I said, that you're aware of. I never said people literally have a second brain. I said that the gut is being referred to as "the second brain" because of it's effect on neurological function - which is being proven in greater and greater detail every day as more studies are published and scientists learn more about it. More signals are sent from the gut to the brain than from the brain to the gut. They're sent via the enteric nervous system, largely via the Vagus Nerve. Here are some google image search results: https://www.google.ca/search?q=nerve+co ... CAYQ_AUoAQ
Yes, the brain governs everything we are and do.. but it works in conjunction with the gut, microflora, neurotransmitters, the enteric nervous system etc as one interdependent symbiotic relationship system as a whole vs. the brain being an independent organ that governs the body & mind w/o any outside influences or assistance from other organs. We're a little more complex than the simplified explanation that the brain is a standalone organ that does everything it does independent of it's working relationship with the rest of the body.
There's plenty of evidence to prove that probiotics are beneficial to those with personality disorders, it's just not widely known yet - hence the appropriate use of the word ignorance. That's not the only things you've seen. You've also seen me here on these forums share that treating my ASD symptoms in these ways has changed my life for the better like night & day. As long as I maintain digestive balance, my brain functions better & higher than ever and I'm living a second life for it w/o the frustrations, constraints, and limitations of strong ASD & comorbid symptoms.
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