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theaspiemusician
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25 Jan 2012, 7:55 pm

I act much less of an Aspie if I get in the sun long enough. Is there a reason for this? I know I'm VERY low on vitamin D, is this an Aspie thing or something else?


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25 Jan 2012, 9:24 pm

Never heard of that. I am gluten free and mostly dairy free in terms of diet, and I'm told I'm a lot more NT when I'm like that lol.

Vitamin D though is important regardless, so continue being out in the sun :)



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25 Jan 2012, 9:33 pm

layla87 wrote:
Never heard of that. I am gluten free and mostly dairy free in terms of diet, and I'm told I'm a lot more NT when I'm like that lol.

Vitamin D though is important regardless, so continue being out in the sun :)

Gluten free and dairy free? I don't think I can give up garlic bread and cheese!! (bread has gluten, right?) I had gluten free cookies once but they LITERALLY tasted like dirt. I have no idea why though. My mom and sister noticed too, so I wasn't tripping out or anything and imagining the dirt flavor.


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25 Jan 2012, 9:34 pm

Really! I think thats got something to do with your mood though. Being in the sun improves the mood, helps you make calcium useful, an gives you vitamin d.


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26 Jan 2012, 12:50 am

I take D supplements and they don't change my AS at all. Having Vitamin D can help your mood and immune system. If you are in a good mood and healthy overall, your AS traits may lessen. My AS traits do lessen a lot when I'm in a good mood.



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26 Jan 2012, 1:14 am

I know that I exhibit more abnormal behavioral tendencies when I'm under stress, or depressed. Vitamin D plays a huge role in S.A.D. (seasonal affective disorder, basically winter depression).

Incidentally, I haven't taken my vitamin D supplements in about a week or so, and I have gotten so f*****g depressed the last few days it is just unreasonable. Case in point?



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26 Jan 2012, 2:05 am

I take a vitamin D supplement at least once a week. I don't know if the supplement helps, but at least it taste good.



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26 Jan 2012, 2:32 am

I take 50,000 IU of vitamin D every week. Doesn't seem to make me less autistic.



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26 Jan 2012, 2:40 am

I don't "pass off" but I do feel much better with more vitamins, for me it's B vitamins, but I'll try some D supplements, too.



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26 Jan 2012, 3:14 am

All I know is too much vitamin D taken as a supplement can shorten your lifespan.

Maybe it has nothing to do with vitamin D, and has to do with natural light. My mother uses light therapy for her seasonal affective disorder since we live quite north. Perhaps it just makes you happier?



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26 Jan 2012, 4:08 am

There may be something with your vitamin D theory. I personally think there are multiple reasons for autism spectrum disorders. What causes autism in one kid may not be the same thing that causes it in another.

Here in Minnesota we have LOTS and LOTS of Somalian immigrants. The rate of autism spectrum disorders skyrocketed after they immigrated here. A possible theory is that the very young children are not getting enough sun since they get considerably less here than the children who were born in Somalia.


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26 Jan 2012, 4:45 am

Everything I read talks about reclassifying Vitamin D, because lumping it in with the other vitamins gives a false impression of how freaking vital it is to almost every process, and, conversely, how sick one might get with a serious-enough deficiency.


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26 Jan 2012, 4:48 am

theaspiemusician wrote:
Gluten free and dairy free? I don't think I can give up garlic bread and cheese!! (bread has gluten, right?)

Some does, some doesn't.
There is gluten-free everything, as well as dairy-free cheese.
theaspiemusician wrote:
I had gluten free cookies once but they LITERALLY tasted like dirt. I have no idea why though. My mom and sister noticed too, so I wasn't tripping out or anything and imagining the dirt flavor.

I had a super gross raisin muffin once.
I still effing love the things.


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26 Jan 2012, 6:08 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:
Everything I read talks about reclassifying Vitamin D, because lumping it in with the other vitamins gives a false impression of how freaking vital it is to almost every process, and, conversely, how sick one might get with a serious-enough deficiency.


This seems to be true (vitamin d is technically closer to a hormone than a vitamin, and unlike other vitamins, it can't be synthesized in the liver - it must come from either sun exposure, some foods, and supplementation). There has been a major battle going on in the nutrition community over not whether we should get more vitamin d but how much more. I tend to side with the school of thought that we need a lot more, for a number of reasons, the foremost being that all the leading specialists in vitamin d research, including the majority of the faculty of the department of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health, amongst other elite researchers, are now recommending higher levels of supplementation and high blood plasma levels.

Even the more conservative US government panel on nutrition said last year that up to 4,000 IU per day of vitamin D3 was safe to take. And d levels have long been known to be inversely correlated in the general population to levels of both MS and depression. So it makes sense to supplement with D3 (except for in the summer) and have your blood levels checked. There's no proof it helps with autism, but since it is now seen as essential to your overall health, it seems to make sense.



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26 Jan 2012, 6:27 am

Frakkin wrote:
All I know is too much vitamin D taken as a supplement can shorten your lifespan.


Could you elaborate on this? I can find nothing relevant via google.



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26 Jan 2012, 7:03 am

Verdandi wrote:
Frakkin wrote:
All I know is too much vitamin D taken as a supplement can shorten your lifespan.


Could you elaborate on this? I can find nothing relevant via google.


I think it's possibile she is be referring to taking multivitamins. There have been some weak correlations found in observational studies between taking multivitamins and a slight increase in all-cause mortality. But there is nothing I have seen linking D3 supplements specifically with shortened lifespan. But if you want the boring details about why this makes little sense, here they are.

The D3 we get in supplements is bioidentical to that we produce on our skin (in fact, the D3 in supplements is generally harvested from sheepskin). D3 is created on the skin when UV-B rays interact with a form of cholesterol. It then binds with oil on the skin and is absorbed and carried by the blood to the liver, where it is converted to calcidiol , which is then the form of vitamin D that is used by all the cells in the body. On the other hand, when we ingest D3 as a supplement, it binds with fat in the stomach, is absorbed in the intestines, and then is carried by the blood to the liver where it too is converted to calcidiol. So while the two forms enter the body in different ways, once they get into the bloodstream, their paths and functions are identical.

Since we absorb 10,000-20,000 IU of D3 from just 10 minutes of summer sunlight, and since we evolved in equatorial Africa, where the sun is at "summer" strength all year, there is absolutely no reason to think that taking 1/10th that much via supplements should be in any way dangerous, and, in fact, it could well be inadequate.

An additional problem with observational studies (like the few that have been said to show dangers with multivitamins) is that they are intended to unearth correlations for further study in double-blind trials. And while the studys' authors almost always know this, they also know that if they present some sensationalized sentences in their conclusions and then include those sentences in a press release, than can get huge media attention. This might get them lots of grant money, but it also is a terrible way to mislead and confuse the general public.