TYPES of ASD individuals from a professional source

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This PDF is fascinating to me in light of the recent DSM V propsed changes. A group of professionals over the course of many years developed these classes or types of ASD individuals. I actually like this proposal...

http://www.socialthinking.com/images/st ... .26.10.pdf

BTW: If you are not familiar with Michelle winner and her blog it is EXCELLENT reading!

Just gave it a wee skim. Looks interesting. I see myself as a WISC type, but I might rectify that assessment after a proper read.

I think I am a WISC too!

I think some of the WISC and some of the ESC makes sense for me. I was an early talker, but my social awareness and self-awareness was really really bad for a long time, and I am sure I still have self-awareness issues, although I've been working hard on that over the past year - not intentionally, just a lot of introspection.

The categories seem to have a lot of holes in them, or spaces where they can and probably do overlap. And of course the whole concept of theory of mind tests as being a matter of failure of theory of mind has been critiqued as overly complex language constructions being used to test people who have language processing difficulties.

I also think it doesn't really address the various cognitive/autistic types that anbuend's mentioned.

I also wonder that bullying seems to be understated once you get past WISC.

I agree with Verdandi that bullying wouldn't stop as you move along the scale.

Personally reading about the WISC I felt like someone had been observing me from the inside. Isn't it a bizarre feeling? I "loved" the bit about being attuned enough to know that people are turned off, but not being able to identify where I went wrong.

I don't feel that I belong in any category.

I'm an ESC with the following differences:
- I don't have good humor, but my understanding of humor is what described
- I'm more resistant to "you’ve just won a million bucks" thing
- Not sure if it is a difference. My difficulties with language started in the age of 8-9 years: stutter, bad articulation, speed issues
- I did not have pronoun learning challenge, but it's not a criterion

I have very weak narrative language in both written a spoken language, indeed.
"highly disorganized and tend to over-­‐focus on details and lack conceptual thinking" - Yes.
"Most need extensive assistance to understand the myriad of social and work expectations delivered each school day." - Not just in school. I work for 15 years now, and I still need it. OK, not everyday.
"This group, from our observation, does not have severe social anxiety as they don’t have enough social awareness to be highly anxious about how they are perceived by others." - Again, true.
"Their work peers will continue to notice their more obvious social, critical thinking and problem solving weaknesses and provide them with some extra assistance or mentoring, without feeling insulted by their lack of nuanced social emotional sensitivity. This means if they can find employment, they are often likely to be employed for a long time." - Well, not always I get this understanding, but, I can see now how I can have a relatively good job while being an emotional moron.
"They may be good at studying information but not as able to apply it outside the classroom" - I see.
"They also tend to be far more naïve than their peer group, not anticipating other’s motives, which may make them more susceptible to being tricked or bullied without realizing this is happening to them." - Naive, yes I am. I don't remember being bullied too much.
"Prognosis for ESC: ESCs live with guided independence across their adult years." - Oh, no. I give up. Living.

I do think these classifications are interesting and perhaps helpful - I hope my previous post didn't sound too negative.

Oh, yes, I almost forgot to say: Thank You, kfisherx, for the info!

Very interesting read kfisherx, thanks from me too.
I am very much the Socially Anxious Social Communicator (SASC)

*CosmicRuss fades into the background*

I do see difference between WISC and ESC. I think I had a friend who is definitely WISC. I can see how life could be hard for them. He struggled with the uni, and after that he struggled with his jobs, while being more intelligent than me, having better memory than mine, speaking much-much better than me, he had more social conflicts along his way.

They definitely have differences. I think there's a likelihood of people mostly fitting into one category or another, but fitting into another category in particular (or many) ways, and I'm not sure how they deal with that.

I knew I wanted to write something more. It's about gender roles. Nothing written about having relationship, family, marrige, sex in the section of ESC as opposed to WISC. Does it mean that we would not have these? Or are not likely to reach the level of understandig social rules necessary? I would appreciate more on this.

When categorizing, this can happen. Increasing the number of categories may help this, but can cause problems in practice because of complexity. Something more structured, like using 2 or 3 dimensions can help this. I think this is implied in the study, but then they should come up something more comprehedable for most humans.

I also see myself as a WISC.

This is a very interesting article. It seems to be a lot more useful than the usual division by functionality. I need more time to digest it, but after a superficial reading, I find a lot in common with the WISC category. I'll have more to say after I get a chance to do a more careful reading.