do you ever feel bad calling others "stupid" or "idiots" ?

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07 Feb 2015, 12:20 am

a lot of people in my life tell me i am intelligent and smart, i do not see this at all. i feel dumb but anyways, i sometimes find myself calling people dumb or idiots or stupid in my head and i feel really bad because its not really true that they are stupid, they are just different and do things in ways that i dont agree with that are most likely contrived or impure and revolved around the thoughts of what others will think of them and what will make them liked.... i have a lot of empathy for other people maybe too much



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07 Feb 2015, 4:12 am

Most of the people I refer to as stupid, imbecilic, petulant etc. Actually are unbelievably unreasonable and stupid.
However I do start to feel bad, because sometimes my perception of people can be clouded and I may actually be wrong about them. So I do refrain from flinging the term around, unless they have demonstrated great stupidity.

(That's probably how people view me as well, xD)


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07 Feb 2015, 11:18 am

campboy92 wrote:
Do You Ever Feel Bad Calling Others "Stupid" Or "Idiots" ?
No, because they really are stupid or idiots!


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07 Feb 2015, 11:30 am

No because people who are really stupid are seen as more human than those that are seen as intelligent or able.



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07 Feb 2015, 12:12 pm

I don't like to think of people as stupid when they don't understand something. I admit I used to do this, but now it strikes me as arrogant. No one is really stupid--we just have different ways of learning and thinking.



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07 Feb 2015, 12:20 pm

I call motor-vehicle drivers "chowder heads" when I see them texting, clearly speaking on their cell phones or my favorite from yesterday: a girl with candy-apple red headphones rocking out while eating Doritos out of the bag with both hands. How she was able to pull that off while driving would amaze me. But, I dunno how she did it.

I do sometimes get angry and use "stupid" or "idiot" and get angry at myself immediately after for my thoughts.


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07 Feb 2015, 1:23 pm

No because it's in my head and it's not like I called them that to their faces. I do think people are really stupid but I also know it's different perspectives but damn if their perception of me is wrong and if they are wrong about others intentions, I think they are dumb. There are different perspectives but that doesn't mean their perspective is correct. Then there is denial but does it really make them stupid? Lot of people would say so.

I don't think people as stupid for not knowing something like about a fact or history or a singer or song, etc. That is just ignorance, not intelligence and there is a difference between the two. Someone once told me online that people are stupid who can't listen to a song and watch TV at the same time while talking on the phone. 8O


I do often wonder if stupidity actually exists because it seems like we, including NTs, all use this word when someone is in denial, thinks different, learns different, processes different, has a different view, doesn't know about something such as a singer or a song. How many times have we been called this because of our social skills or literal thinking and processing things different?


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07 Feb 2015, 1:44 pm

League_Girl wrote:
... I don't think people as stupid for not knowing something like about a fact or history or a singer or song, etc. That is just ignorance, not intelligence and there is a difference between the two...
Agreed.

Not knowing something is ignorance; not wanting to learn and be less ignorant, or to cling to beliefs that have no basis in fact, when knowledge has obvious advantages over ignorance is stupidity.


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07 Feb 2015, 1:54 pm

^^wow. i would call them stupid, chowder-heads etc, but for the sake of their own safety. i mean what the fcuk?

for whatever reason, lots of people think i am smart also. this is beyond me?

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I don't like to think of people as stupid when they don't understand something. I admit I used to do this, but now it strikes me as arrogant.

i used to do this a bit as well, but now i don't. obviously there are TONS of things that nobody knows. and there are many things i don't know than those that i have accused of being 'stupid' in a certain context, DO know. simply because you are interested in different things in a class, and thus learn the material faster doesn't mean you're stupid, whatever that word means anyway.

early in high school and in middle school, i would see people snickering whenever they saw someone really struggling with material that most everyone else understood well, or repeated asking the teacher for help. and strangely, it wasn't really the very advances students that did this, but the more 'average' students, b-, c average. later in high school i didn't see as much of this fortunately. i think that some of these students who were made fun of genuinely wanted to learn the material...and that's why they asked for help so much. and can you honestly call that 'stupid'? but then there are those who just sit in back of class, don't ask for help and fail. because they are not interested in the class. they are only in it required to take it for the diploma, and they either make minimal effort, or don't care and fail.

now maybe once/if these same people go out to The Real World, and be able to study or do what they want they'll blossom....but we'll see. :chin:

and i definitely don't call others morons because they like different things than i do! i am not 12, and i doubt there's a whole lot of people my age out there who like conlanging :P

ignorance can be reversed. but i have low patience for those who continue to stubbornly believe BS, even when evidence to the contrary is constantly waved in front of their own faces and they don't buy it. when i was younger i got that same impression from my dad, how he was supposedly never wrong. but maybe it's because I was never right...


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07 Feb 2015, 2:12 pm

I call people idiots in my own mind all the time, and I don't feel bad about that, but I would feel bad about saying it to them...unless the person actually harmed me by doing something idiotic.



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07 Feb 2015, 2:21 pm

I do get a bit grouchy at times with people who confine their thinking into small conventional frames that revolve around themselves and what they need and totally refuse to see any possibility of a bigger or different picture. A typical example is: "there absolutely can't be intelligent life anywhere else in the universe because no other planet/universe has or could have the same conditions as here", these people who can't see how totally egocentric and anthrocentric that is, can't open their minds to the idea of intelligent life ever being different in any way from themselves or this planet and universe.

I just silently shake my head and think "idiot".



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07 Feb 2015, 2:27 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
i used to do this a bit as well, but now i don't. obviously there are TONS of things that nobody knows. and there are many things i don't know than those that i have accused of being 'stupid' in a certain context, DO know. simply because you are interested in different things in a class, and thus learn the material faster doesn't mean you're stupid, whatever that word means anyway.


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ignorance can be reversed. but i have low patience for those who continue to stubbornly believe BS, even when evidence to the contrary is constantly waved in front of their own faces and they don't buy it. when i was younger i got that same impression from my dad, how he was supposedly never wrong. but maybe it's because I was never right...


The wonderful Socratic paradox: in the paraphrased words of Socrates, "I know that I know nothing."

I do not find it necessary to call someone an idiot. What point is there to state what is already recognised? :)



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07 Feb 2015, 2:29 pm

It's not true that I know nothing.

It is true that I don't know what I don't know.



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07 Feb 2015, 2:34 pm

B19 wrote:
It's not true that I know nothing.

It is true that I don't know what I don't know.



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07 Feb 2015, 2:37 pm

Being open-minded doesn’t mean being gullible. Being open-minded means that you’re receptive to new ideas and willing to consider other perspectives to see if they hold any value. If they hold no value for you, dump them. If they strike a chord with you, explore them further.

The problem is that closed minds gain nothing. Possibility thinking opens up possibility. To equate possibility with magical thinking in a black and white way seems to me a waste of our wonderful potentials.



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07 Feb 2015, 8:23 pm

Most of the time I call people things like that in my head or outloud is when they are doing something stupid or idiotic usually on TV.


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