Can Autism/Aspergers go into (partial) remission?

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13 Feb 2015, 10:59 pm

I was skimming though an evaluation that VR had me do and their psychologist stated that I have Autistic spectrum disorder (in partial remission) I've shown the report to somebody I trust and he kinda scoffed and said that how can Autism by way of Aspergers go into remission or partial remission of course I didn't have an answer so I ask you guys is this something that goes into remission or partial remission granted I am a little bit more social but 98.9% of the times I want to be alone doing my own thing could it be the person the VR folks sent me to wanted to down play me having Autism?

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13 Feb 2015, 11:01 pm

Autism/aspergers does not go into remission. The person you spoke with is an idiot. It's not like depression and anxiety, it's an actual disorder based on the way your brain is wired.

You can get better at handling your condition, due to being less nervous at times, or due to changing the way you view yourself and the world, but autism itself is always there. It doesn't go into remission.



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13 Feb 2015, 11:08 pm

Idk, there seems to be a mindset among support agencies here that Autism can indeed spontaneously disappear. Otherwise autistic people wouldn't get a letter every year asking if they're still autistic and thus do they still require support :roll:


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13 Feb 2015, 11:43 pm

it should be noted that the person I went to (not related to VR) clearly stated that I have Autism level 1 and that I am high(er) functioning according to the ADOS 2 I clearly have Autism tho eye contact was an issue (still is) and SRS test does list my social disorders in a moderate to severe range which I provided the reports to the psychologist VR sent me too he did agree to some extent that I have issues in the social arena tho he did have to grab the DSM-V to go over the other symptoms of ASD. Soo I'm more inclined to believe the person I saw rather then the person VR sent me to but again I really didn't know if ASD could go into (partial) remission.


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14 Feb 2015, 12:36 am

You are you, and no one is better then that. :)

There just playing with names and titles that changes nothing really. Besides, it's documented in the discription as a life long disorder in the DSM, As said above, most aspies learn to deal with there surrounding better as time goes by. That does not meen our we are not still aspies...
They may also be trying to sergest that they mis-diagnosed you in the first place though but hard to say. I'm not one to like hanging around doctors for any reasion though. Lol



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14 Feb 2015, 12:37 am

mistersprinkles wrote:
Autism/aspergers does not go into remission. The person you spoke with is an idiot. It's not like depression and anxiety, it's an actual disorder based on the way your brain is wired.

You can get better at handling your condition, due to being less nervous at times, or due to changing the way you view yourself and the world, but autism itself is always there. It doesn't go into remission.


Anxiety and Depression are actual disorders....yes everyone experiences both of those feelings but there is a such thing as anxiety disorders and clinical depression I would know, I have both as well as aspergers, well actually two anxiety disorders Generalized Anxiety and PTSD and Major Depression....point is they are 'actual' disorders.


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14 Feb 2015, 12:47 am

Symptoms do lessen or get worse for various reason. People don't go into "remission," though it might seem that way.



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14 Feb 2015, 1:31 am

Ronnie47 wrote:
You are you, and no one is better then that. :)

They may also be trying to sergest that they mis-diagnosed you in the first place though but hard to say. I'm not one to like hanging around doctors for any reasion though. Lol


Thanks, it wouldn't surprise me if they are hinting at me being mis-dignosed it's been the story of my life! one person would say I have A another person would say B another person would say neither A nor B but something different altogether it's a cluster.... I honestly do think that the Autism diagnoses is perhaps the real diagnoses
I have read the symptoms my self I have lived through them and am still dealing with them I hate when I go and see a person I've never talked with before whom has no real background on me and in less then 5 mins he concludes by saying oh your Autism is in partial remission I mean I don't even think he did any testing relating to Autism just IQ stuff (which I think was flawed).

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14 Feb 2015, 3:22 am

JoelFan wrote:
it should be noted that the person I went to (not related to VR) clearly stated that I have Autism level 1 and that I am high(er) functioning according to the ADOS 2 I clearly have Autism tho eye contact was an issue (still is) and SRS test does list my social disorders in a moderate to severe range which I provided the reports to the psychologist VR sent me too he did agree to some extent that I have issues in the social arena tho he did have to grab the DSM-V to go over the other symptoms of ASD. Soo I'm more inclined to believe the person I saw rather then the person VR sent me to but again I really didn't know if ASD could go into (partial) remission.


I have never heard of an ASD going into remission. I have had professionals tell me that I'm "recovered" b/c I no longer immediately present as autistic. But I was in the Lovaas study back in the 1970's where they had a vested interest in classifying me as recovered. I still have challenges even though most people I disclose my autism to, tend to think that I was misdiagnosed. This is soo frustrating b/c I had most of the classic signs when I was 3 and some professionals even went as far as to say that I'd need institutionalization.

I hope you get this sorted out.
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14 Feb 2015, 11:57 am

Autism doesn't go into remission. It's not "curable", but it is treatable. People on the spectrum can get better at coping and controlling their condition and traits, which can make them appear more normal, but too much stress makes the the control slip, and our traits then tend to manifest themselves again. Also, even though we may be able to control and cope somewhat out in public, we need to let go of that control when we are in private, so we can vent, and then recharge ourselves. So the docs and therapists are seeing the controlled, public face, and not your true autism condition. Also, anyone who thinks they can diagnose anything about autism in just five minutes is either an incompetent idiot, or delusional. Autism is a very complex condition, with many possible variations, and many possible traits. It takes more than five minutes to figure out anything about such a complex condition. Don't see that idiot again. Insist on seeing someone with autism experience who will spend the time needed to do a proper diagnosis.


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14 Feb 2015, 3:14 pm

Autism doesn't go into remission. We get better at handling our environments as time passes.


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14 Feb 2015, 3:35 pm

I agree, it's lifelong. Coping strategies can reduce the impact it has on your life, and environmental changes can make a difference too. The main reason I had trouble believing I had autism was that I'd been through a few years where I felt very accepted and included by the people around me. Closer inspection showed that those people were unusually friendly and non-judgemental. I was also getting very interested in the importance of emotion at the time, which helps social things. I'm still amazed at one or two of the things I did back then, which seem straight out of the neurotypical recipe book. Couldn't have done it if the people involved hadn't been so suitable for me at the time.

So I think the underlying is pretty much fixed, but the individual can experience huge changes in how autistic their behaviour is, depending on environment, luck, willingness to learn and experiment, and ingenuity at creating coping strategies. That's mainly on the social level. With less social aspects such as executive function, I think the same applies but I haven't seen the same changes in my case.



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14 Feb 2015, 3:51 pm

It's disturbing for a psychologist to say it's in partial remission. Cancer goes into remission, depression goes into remission. Autism is less noticeable and causes less difficulty around accepting people, and as one gains skills. But autism isn't a disease and can't go into remission, it just looks like it does.



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14 Feb 2015, 3:51 pm

Waterfalls wrote:
It's disturbing for a psychologist to say it's in partial remission. Cancer goes into remission, depression goes into remission. Autism is less noticeable and causes less difficulty around accepting people, and as one gains skills. But autism isn't a disease and can't go into remission, it just looks like it does to those who want to see it that way.



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14 Feb 2015, 10:05 pm

questor wrote:
...People on the spectrum can get better at coping and controlling their condition and traits, which can make them appear more normal, but too much stress makes the the control slip, and our traits then tend to manifest themselves again. Also, even though we may be able to control and cope somewhat out in public, we need to let go of that control when we are in private, so we can vent, and then recharge ourselves...


I 100% agree! When I'm sleep deprived (a stressor), I tend to act more autistic. I also need down time to recharge.
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14 Feb 2015, 11:13 pm

Lnb1771 wrote:
I 100% agree! When I'm sleep deprived (a stressor), I tend to act more autistic. I also need down time to recharge.
Lydia


Come to think about it I was bordering on sleep derivation when I took the battery of tests which may be the reason why I scored a low(er) IQ I'm going to have to see if I can get a retest


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