So autism may not have the same causes for everyone.

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25 Feb 2015, 6:21 pm

I found this video, and its about siblings that both have autism with an older sister who does not...I personally have 3 siblings and I do not think any have autism maybe a couple traits but not really enough to constitute anything. But it says it could be different genetic causes for both of the people in the video...which would mean there isn't a single cause that is the same for everyone when it comes to autism.

Which means no cure...if everyone's genetics/dna is different to begin with, and everyone with autism has slightly different dna causes of it how on earth are they ever going to narrow it down to anything specific. I personally have been you could say diagnosed with a 'genetic mutation' which could very well be linked to my autism....But yeah can they really 'cure' DNA....But yeah they found that out with a bunch of blood tests and muscle biopsy(that was painful but I was curious so whatever), I had some weird issue with getting kinda dizzy and an incident where I sat down trying to walk to my moms car from the class and felt like I couldn't walk any further so that is why I had all that testing. But yeah they never figured out what exacly it meant, maybe its connected to the autism....But yeah so poking around in the brain clearly cannot cure autism, and you don't want to screw around with peoples genetics, at least in my opinion so I don't see a cure....better to spend all the money/resources figuring out how to create a society that can co-exist with us and provide proper accommodation where nessisary. Hopefully I can find more information on this, but for now I just have this video, just the beginning is really all the factual stuff other then that just interviews the family so if you find that boring you don't have to watch the whole thing:
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/live-news/2015/2/new-findings-on-autism-discover-that-siblings-have-own-autistic-genes.html


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25 Feb 2015, 7:01 pm

maybe autism does not always have a cause.



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25 Feb 2015, 7:02 pm

There was a piece about this on CBC The Current the other day. I thought it was interesting.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/moha ... -1.2961766

ETA: I have two sons who are both diagnosed with the same level of autism and I've often been amazed by how different they are. They are raised in the same house, presumably in mostly the same way (although I have changed some practises as I learned stuff over the years), have the same parents, and the same diagnosis, yet they are extremely different.


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25 Feb 2015, 7:06 pm

I think, over time, that the consensus will be that autism has MANY causes.

Some environmental
Some genetic
Some epigenetic

Many which are environmental/genetic with the emphasis on environmental
Or an emphasis on the genetic, with a smidgen of epigenetic thrown in.

Many which are primarily epigenetic--yet which have environmental elements as well.



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25 Feb 2015, 7:33 pm

WelcomeToHolland wrote:
There was a piece about this on CBC The Current the other day. I thought it was interesting.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/moha ... -1.2961766

ETA: I have two sons who are both diagnosed with the same level of autism and I've often been amazed by how different they are. They are raised in the same house, presumably in mostly the same way (although I have changed some practises as I learned stuff over the years), have the same parents, and the same diagnosis, yet they are extremely different.


This is a fascinating subject too. Many of us here have something in common but at the same time are very much different.

Personality is a big factor too, everyone is different.. even if you have the same parents and practically the same life experience as your little brother. I see autism on an individual basis pretty much like a table with lots of buttons on it that can be tuned from 0 to 100. There is one button for social skills, motor skills, severity and the list goes on and on. Everyone with autism is wired differently. You may have the same condition, but you have a different personality and are wired differently. There may be some similar symptoms but there may also be some areas where one kid with autism is way better inthan his little brother who happens to have the same condition.

My best friend has autism and she has some difficulties that may look similar to mine on the surface but at the same time are really hard for me to understand. She is sometimes jealous because i am able to work, even tho i need alot of 'alone' time like her after a busy event to recharge mentally, while i kinda envy her on being able to meet new people easely or enter relationships without any trouble.

My older brother has PPD-nos while i am undiagnosed. Altho we had a identical youth, we are very much different. Autism affected him more than me. We both kinda avoids social situations but my brother prefers to sit behind his computer all day and social security is his only income. I am glad i have a job, but people seem to become more aware of me possible being an aspie. I get comments like avoiding eye contact more and more lately which got me worried of my boss possible finding out someday that there is something wrong with me. One colleague asked me why i did not look him in the eye the other day. I told him that when i look 99.99% of the people in the eye, i get a very funny but weird feeling in my stomache. Like they can read my mind.. when i force eye contact, i dont understand anything they say.

So yeah, to summarize..
Everyone is unique, even people with autism.



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25 Feb 2015, 8:30 pm

chagya wrote:
maybe autism does not always have a cause.


Well everything has causes/factors....usually the cause is a combination of factors for any given thing.


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25 Feb 2015, 8:58 pm

Suncatcher wrote:
WelcomeToHolland wrote:
There was a piece about this on CBC The Current the other day. I thought it was interesting.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/moha ... -1.2961766

ETA: I have two sons who are both diagnosed with the same level of autism and I've often been amazed by how different they are. They are raised in the same house, presumably in mostly the same way (although I have changed some practises as I learned stuff over the years), have the same parents, and the same diagnosis, yet they are extremely different.


This is a fascinating subject too. Many of us here have something in common but at the same time are very much different.

Personality is a big factor too, everyone is different.. even if you have the same parents and practically the same life experience as your little brother. I see autism on an individual basis pretty much like a table with lots of buttons on it that can be tuned from 0 to 100. There is one button for social skills, motor skills, severity and the list goes on and on. Everyone with autism is wired differently. You may have the same condition, but you have a different personality and are wired differently. There may be some similar symptoms but there may also be some areas where one kid with autism is way better inthan his little brother who happens to have the same condition.


Of course, but there are differences between them that are not personality differences, and that's what I meant by that. For instance, one of my kids regressed and one of them didn't. That's not a personality difference. They have different personalities too, but that was expected (it would be very strange if they had the same personality!).


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25 Feb 2015, 10:32 pm

I agree. Autism affects a slightly different part of the brain in each autistic person. I also agree that no two people have the same DNA. When you put 2 and 2 together, this theory makes a lot of sense.


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25 Feb 2015, 11:07 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
which would mean there isn't a single cause that is the same for everyone when it comes to autism.


I think this is clear. For instance, there are higher rates of traumatic births among autistic people (myself included), brain hemorrhaging at birth is also corollary. Correlation does not equal causation. Suppose that whatever causes autism also causes traumatic births? There are other correlations with autism such as genetics i.e autistic parent is more likely to have autistic kid... I know there are others... help me out here guys :P. But again, correlation does not equal causation!


chagya wrote:
maybe autism does not always have a cause.


Everything has a cause.


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26 Feb 2015, 12:45 am

r84shi37 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
which would mean there isn't a single cause that is the same for everyone when it comes to autism.


I think this is clear. For instance, there are higher rates of traumatic births among autistic people (myself included), brain hemorrhaging at birth is also corollary. Correlation does not equal causation. Suppose that whatever causes autism also causes traumatic births? There are other correlations with autism such as genetics i.e autistic parent is more likely to have autistic kid... I know there are others... help me out here guys :P. But again, correlation does not equal causation!


I should have said factor not cause...differing factors lead up to differing causes for autism that effect different people. genes for it can probably be passed down, but it can also be a random genetic occurance not related to the genes of the parents like in my case it was random as far as I know.


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