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13 Feb 2015, 1:51 pm

The new software allows users to submit articles on the site:

http://wrongplanet.net/post-a-new-article/

If we choose your article, it will be featured on the homepage!

I'm sure you can think of something to write about that would be helpful to the community at large. Examples would be things like how to make friends, how to make sure to pay your taxes on time, how to remember to pay bills on time, organizing your life, scheduling appointments by using a calendar, how to ask someone out, how to come off great in a job interview, how to be successful in school/college, etc. Please note that articles should be as long as the articles already on the site an be of high quality.

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13 Feb 2015, 2:16 pm

What about a life skills series where I give detailed instructions about how to do lots of the things that most people just pick up from watching others. Maybe things like basic cleaning and cooking skills. Organizing and budgeting. Things that most people pick up without knowing it or are figure out on their own, but are harder for us if we haven't had them explained to us.

I've wanted to do a video series on something like that but I don't know how to work a camera nor do I have one, my kids have them but I'm clueless about it. It would probably be easier for me to just explain things.


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13 Feb 2015, 2:42 pm

alex wrote:
The new software allows users to submit articles on the site:

http://wrongplanet.net/post-a-new-article/

If we choose your article, it will be featured on the homepage!

Cool 8)



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13 Feb 2015, 2:55 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
What about a life skills series where I give detailed instructions about how to do lots of the things that most people just pick up from watching others. Maybe things like basic cleaning and cooking skills. Organizing and budgeting. Things that most people pick up without knowing it or are figure out on their own, but are harder for us if we haven't had them explained to us.

I've wanted to do a video series on something like that but I don't know how to work a camera nor do I have one, my kids have them but I'm clueless about it. It would probably be easier for me to just explain things.

all of those topics sound cool


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13 Feb 2015, 5:43 pm

But.... Anything we post, you own. That's the statement in your terms of service:

By posting to the forums, or any other sections of this site, you signify agreement that you
are giving WrongPlanet permission to use, modify, and reproduce your submission, in part or
in whole, in any way, shape, form, or method in which we decide to do so, at any point in
the present or future at our discretion.

Any and all information posted on WrongPlanet.net may not be copied or used elsewhere, in
any way, shape, or form, either on the Internet or in print without express written consent
of an owner of WrongPlanet.net.



We don't own the words we write on your site - if someone wrote an article, you could profit from it and there's nothing the individual could do about it. They also couldn't mention it on their own blog, should they have one.


Is WrongPlanet offering terms i.e. percentage of ad revenue in relation to site traffic for a specific period of time? That would be fair. Otherwise, people are working for you for free.



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13 Feb 2015, 5:52 pm

People are posting articles like this for altruistic reasons. They don't expect anything in return.

Forget all this TOS crap.

Articles about paying bills on time, or getting into college/university, are indispensable for us of alternative neurology.



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13 Feb 2015, 5:53 pm

I've written articles that have been published on major news sites like CNN.com and I didn't get paid anything by them and these are companies that actually have the money to pay. Wrong Planet doesn't have that kind of money. Billions of people post things on live journal and twitter and facebook and those companies aren't paying their contributors.

Either way, Wrong Planet doesn't make much from advertising so it wouldn't really make you much money to do a revenue share.

But you get a lot of exposure from our site and it could help you in many other ways! Also it's for the good of your fellow autistics to share things that could help them.


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13 Feb 2015, 6:20 pm

alex wrote:
But you get a lot of exposure from our site and it could help you in many other ways!
Let's pass by this one



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Also it's for the good of your fellow autistics to share things that could help them.
But they do share - it's called the forum area....

(Interesting use of the word 'your'... )

Alex I think it's a good idea - I just think it should be highlighted in a thread such as this that the individual has no rights whatsoever to the articles they submit. Hence my post.

Question - do you have any plans for such articles beyond featuring them on the homepage?




I personally wouldn't take my car to the garage and expect the mechanic to work on it for free. For the good of his career or otherwise.

The craftsman is worthy of their hire.


You could surely offer a small token i.e. a WrongPlanet mug or such for each featured article? (And if you don't have a small product line such as basic merch etc - which you could easily do with the accumulated data on your site - it is worth thinking about as an expansion model)



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13 Feb 2015, 6:23 pm

alex wrote:
The new software allows users to submit articles on the site:

http://wrongplanet.net/post-a-new-article/

If we choose your article, it will be featured on the homepage!

I'm sure you can think of something to write about that would be helpful to the community at large. Examples would be things like how to make friends, how to make sure to pay your taxes on time, how to remember to pay bills on time, organizing your life, scheduling appointments by using a calendar, how to ask someone out, how to come off great in a job interview, how to be successful in school/college, etc. Please note that articles should be as long as the articles already on the site an be of high quality.

Thoughts?


Very nice Alex. How does the submission system work? Would you review every submission before it get's posted?



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13 Feb 2015, 6:31 pm

alex wrote:
I've written articles that have been published on major news sites like CNN.com and I didn't get paid anything by them and these are companies that actually have the money to pay. Wrong Planet doesn't have that kind of money. Billions of people post things on live journal and twitter and facebook and those companies aren't paying their contributors.

Either way, Wrong Planet doesn't make much from advertising so it wouldn't really make you much money to do a revenue share.

But you get a lot of exposure from our site and it could help you in many other ways! Also it's for the good of your fellow autistics to share things that could help them.


Most writers are woefully underpaid even once we get noticed, but it sure wouldn't hurt someone interested in developing a name in the autistic community to have their articles featured on WP. Cool idea, Alex. :)



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13 Feb 2015, 6:31 pm

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Articles about paying bills on time, or getting into college/university, are indispensable for us of alternative neurology.
Therefore you should see the validity and potential of such an 'indispensable' product to be something more than just a feature on a blog - it could easily become a book on sale via Jessica Kingsley Publishers or a similar such publisher - of course, you'd first need the information - at which point you own it and can do what you wish with it.


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Forget all this TOS crap.
It is far from 'crap' and you should take it more seriously given the volume of data you submit. However, your reaction is understandable - many individuals hear what they want to hear and see what they want to see. I'm contributing to this thread to add balance to the original post - which should probably state that you have no rights to your contributions - a contribution which could be highly revealing/personal in nature.


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People are posting articles like this for altruistic reasons. They don't expect anything in return.
But if it was known there is the potential to get something in return, does the game change?
PS you're assuming to speak for everyone by saying why they would post such articles. Are you speaking on behalf of the entire forum?! !
If you're truly looking at this objectively, posting such articles could also be for egotistical reasons. Or any other reason. There are many more reasons for contribution than altruism.



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13 Feb 2015, 6:35 pm

I think these articles would serve useful purposes.

I don't think the articles will be "exploited" in any way. How would something about how to clean up a house be "exploited?"

They've already been written by SOMEONE ELSE, not the poster. As long as the source is credited, there's no copyright infringement.



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13 Feb 2015, 6:42 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I think these articles would serve useful purposes.
I think they could serve useful purposes - hence they could have value outwith a website.

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't think the articles will be "exploited" in any way.
But they could be. That's the point.

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How would something about how to clean up a house be "exploited?"
It could be sold and the original author receives credit but no financial renumeration for a product that another individual is financially renumerated for.

kraftiekortie wrote:
As long as the source is credited, there's no copyright infringement.
You're missing the point.


(PS I'm not against anyone and in no way is any contribution to this thread a targeted attack - read the content objectively)



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13 Feb 2015, 6:52 pm

I just don't see any potential harm in submitting helpful articles written by someone else, and credited to that someone else.



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13 Feb 2015, 7:05 pm

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I just don't see any potential harm in submitting helpful articles written by someone else, and credited to that someone else.
Lawsuit brought on site owner(s) due to copyright infringement violation, if submitted articles are sections from published works.

Many issues here if you mean just 'borrowing' sections from someone's book.

Alex won't allow this to happen as legally he can't allow it to happen. Alex has no right to post sections form (for example) a Tony Attwood book. Or any other author. This leaves individual site users' contributions.




Individuals answer each other's posts in the forum area - that is in and of itself could be described as insightful. Previously submitted articles which are published on this site are consistent in the sense that the grammar and length are adequate as what is looked for by a publisher as sample book chapters.

I've made my contribution to this thread by highlighting the potential - it's up to others to decide on what to do with their words/lives.



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13 Feb 2015, 7:11 pm

How is it copyright infringement if THE SOURCE IS CREDITED? I don't get it.

It's not WP who would be sued--it would be the person who took it from WP, then infringed the copyright who would be sued. WP would merely be a third party to this.

What WP should do is make sure THE SOURCE IS CREDITED within any article/excerpt of book placed in WP>