why are some groups allowed to be formed?
i am on facebook
and there are groups such as young black future nurses
just for black people
Hold on - is this not rasist
or even apartheid like??
would there not be uproar if i created
younf white future nurses just for white people
argggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Of course you are correct.
But if you state this opinion in some places, then it is you who will be called the racist.
(eg. the Big Brother Shilpa nonsense)
It's called political correctness; a tool used to by some to quieten the opinion of others.
If black people want to form a group just for black people, then there is nothing inherently wrong with this. I mean there is nothing wrong with preserving and celebrating your own culture.
What is wrong is that if you were to form a group for 'White Students', then you would be called racist.
This is the double standard.
As long as you are not expressing animosity or prejudice to other groups, i dont see a problem.
I think Groucho Marx said it best when he said he didn't want to belong to any group that would invite him to be a member.
Some years ago I was invited to join a group of just women and I told them I didn't want to belong to a group that excluded anybody. They didn't get it.
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and there are groups such as young black future nurses
just for black people
Hold on - is this not rasist
or even apartheid like??
would there not be uproar if i created
younf white future nurses just for white people
argggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I see that type of thing as the same as this site, a place dedicated to people with the same visions or same ideals or something else in common. It doesn't sound like they are trying to say ONLY young black women should be nurses, they are simply creating a community for those with similar goals in mind. Or I could be wrong and they actually think they are the only ones worthy of nursing....
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Hmm. I don't see it that way. If they feel they have a common problem to overcome, such as racial stereotyping. then why not? Are you sure you are excluded? Anyone can join the NAACP in the US.
It's only human nature to form groups with like members. We are doing the same here. No one has the right to say a group cannont form. Who would judge such things?
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larsenjw92286
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A group like ours is here because people can use support, and that is very good!
ok im going to try and apply to be part of there group
and see if im wrong ...
i believe in support groups
but not racially specific groups
purely because as i said earlier try and create the sam group but for white nurses and see the reaction...
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I think the support group hypothesis is right. I believe there a fewer black nurses, and so by creating a group they are able to allay the fears and share the experiences that they may have, thus increasing the quality of work they can do. Facebook groups I hate though are ones that try and get lots of people to join, an example being "If I double the number of people joining this group everyday for a month I will become a hermit and live in a cave" (not real group as far as I know)
They know full well its not going to ever happen, as there will be a rush of people joining at the start and from then on it is unrealistic to aspire to double each day for a month.
You know, it is FUNNY! I have seen preference against me in EVERYTHING by ALL groups! SOME were BLACK, MEXICAN, JAPANESE, CHINESE, ARAB, WHITE!! ! NOW I understand more of it. Some was simply AS. That DOES explain the problem with whites. Blacks, etc.. were just RACIST! I can't say ANYTHING against THAT though! Some LAUGH when I say I have been a victim of racism, but I HAVE been.
As for what SeriousGirl said? WHAT does NAACP stand for????? National Association for the Advancement of Colored People! Or what about MALDEF Mexican American Legal Defense Education Fund. ust TRY to make one for WHITES! The U.S. has LOTS of laws making it ILLEGAL!
Steve
As for what SeriousGirl said? WHAT does NAACP stand for????? National Association for the Advancement of Colored People! Or what about MALDEF Mexican American Legal Defense Education Fund. ust TRY to make one for WHITES! The U.S. has LOTS of laws making it ILLEGAL!
Steve
thankyou
you know what i mean!
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I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do
They know full well its not going to ever happen, as there will be a rush of people joining at the start and from then on it is unrealistic to aspire to double each day for a month.
thats funny
the minority on the wards i have worked on are white british nurses
i wonder why there are no jobs for newly qualified british nurses??
could it be because the NHS employed a vast amount of black, african, indian nurses???
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I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do
They know full well its not going to ever happen, as there will be a rush of people joining at the start and from then on it is unrealistic to aspire to double each day for a month.
thats funny
the minority on the wards i have worked on are white british nurses
i wonder why there are no jobs for newly qualified british nurses??
could it be because the NHS employed a vast amount of black, african, indian nurses???
WOW, you guys REALLY have that problem too!! !! In the US, they are TRYING to say it ONLY affects IT jobs. NOT TRUE! It affects EVERYTHING! I would say more, but I was LITERALL told to SHUTUP about such things. Too many see the short picture for THEM. MAN, if I was rich, I would probably blow every penny SCREAMING the truth.
BTW full whites(having no other identified protected class group) almost certainly are a minority in the US. ALSO, whites tend to have less kids for LOTS of reasons.
Steve
They know full well its not going to ever happen, as there will be a rush of people joining at the start and from then on it is unrealistic to aspire to double each day for a month.
thats funny
the minority on the wards i have worked on are white british nurses
i wonder why there are no jobs for newly qualified british nurses??
could it be because the NHS employed a vast amount of black, african, indian nurses???
WOW, you guys REALLY have that problem too!! !! In the US, they are TRYING to say it ONLY affects IT jobs. NOT TRUE! It affects EVERYTHING! I would say more, but I was LITERALL told to SHUTUP about such things. Too many see the short picture for THEM. MAN, if I was rich, I would probably blow every penny SCREAMING the truth.
BTW full whites(having no other identified protected class group) almost certainly are a minority in the US. ALSO, whites tend to have less kids for LOTS of reasons.
Steve
but why should you be quite???
to conform to what society expects of you ?/?
the truth is the truth and the facts are there
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