Does anyone else feel disoriented and confused?

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03 Apr 2015, 8:40 pm

I don't know what to say. I'm outside of myself -- analyzing the situation and running options in my head. I feel that every bodies a part of some script, and knows exactly how and where they fit. I feel like a ghost... Like a chameleon.



Why am I like this? Isn't everyone just acting?
Sometimes I don't know what what means, like simple things 1+1 =2, but applied in the abstract ..sime things ...I should feel this way about this this and that. It's too much, it's like overload.

I analyze how I look and my posture. I'm hyper analytical about how I look, right when I am people call it out that I look funny. Is there a "perfect" way to be?

My ocd is bad. People say I'm handsome but I always seem to think in timings and patterns. Not smooth like everyone else. What is this, how do I cope with being different?



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04 Apr 2015, 12:03 pm

Yes, I often feel this way. It could be a number of things, but I think they all tie into one another in a way. For one, our anxiety can make us feel this: always being hypervigilant of everything can cause us to look at things in a different way, and eventually detach or burn out and not feel fully present. I...frequently feel as though I really have no body, or am not fully integrated with it, it is more of a puppet which I control and much of it does not come naturally. The one actor in the play who turned up at the wrong time and barely got to look at the script, and everyone acts strange about it but won't directly explain; we have to try and work it out.

From what I've heard very many of us on the spectrum feel that -- things not coming naturally -- and it could simply be to do with the different way our brains work. A greater tendency towards anxiety, being more analytical and sometimes perceptive, with tasks such as socialisation, presenting oneself, all the everyday "acting" that comes so instinctually and is so straightforward to some neurotypicals being for us more like a winding road, one that we have to consciously find for not being able to follow it without much thought. When it becomes apparent how automatically it comes to some others, it can make us feel like we're acting, detached, almost a different kind of being.

It isn't surprising that we can get stuck outside of ourselves. It can be hard to strike the balance between analysing things in order to be able to identify a correct response and actually executing that response at the appropriate time. It's overwhelming. For those of us who particularly tend towards hypervigilance, it's easy to set too high a standard for what is an appropriate response and spend too long trying to find it -- before we can do so, the appropriate time is gone. I've been having this problem all my life.

There is no perfect way to be. It's a very grey area, very complex and wide, with no absolutes. I think it's important that we try to find that balance in terms of analysis and action, but it requires much practise and experimentation, and often many mistakes.

I think I understand what you mean about the abstraction and overload. Things don't fully make sense, don't match up across everything, don't have a root or a beginning or end but seem to come out of nowhere without reason or explanation. Things like meditation have somewhat helped me with this. Observing what is, in all its senselessness, and not trying to project meaning onto it because it rarely works, and seems to leave as soon as it came whenever it does work.

How you can cope with being different is by finding and making use of your strengths while trying to understand your weaknesses as well as possible. Use the former to cope with the latter. Be open to new ideas, paths, possibilities. Try to find ways to keep moving forward -- alternative ways around those problems which are bringing you to a halt. Therapy might help with some problems, especially OCD; if you haven't tried it already they may be able to offer some very useful techniques and alternative approaches.

One of the things that helps me most is to view it all as a learning experience. Different truly does not mean bad, and there's a solution to every difficulty out there, although some are easier to find and use than others. The frustration of being unable to do certain things in the normal way, to re-tread the most well-trodden paths, can be more than balanced by the joy of finding other paths which lead to the very same, or perhaps even better places.



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06 Apr 2015, 4:02 pm

Yes, yes and yes!! ! Thank you for your response to my post. I am sorry it took me so long to respond -- but I wanted to write back when I had time and patience to dedicate some words to the well thought out and heartfelt response that you wrote to me. Everything you wrote, it was like I was writing it...or those were the very same thought's I've had but could never put them to words, or just never did put them to words. I am tempted to print out your response and paste it on my fridge, though I don't know if that would be overdoing it -- but, I don't think so.

Everything you said was so spot on, so similar to my experience that I almost feel we are the same person. I've heard that Mg+, that is magnesium, and other soft metals; ie calcium, zinc help with problems of overfocus, though I don't know how true that is. I know they physically relax my body to the point where mental relaxation occurs -- so it may be.

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always being hypervigilant of everything can cause us to look at things in a different way, and eventually detach or burn out and not feel fully present. I...frequently feel as though I really have no body, or am not fully integrated with it, it is more of a puppet which I control and much of it does not come naturally. The one actor in the play who turned up at the wrong time and barely got to look at the script, and everyone acts strange about it but won't directly explain; we have to try and work it out


This is so descriptive and accurate of how I feel, it is amazing. I often feel we would make great artists or poets/writers, because in creation of art you have solitude necessary to stop and dissect moments and go into them to extrapolate their full artistic ideal. There is no keeping up with socialization, frantic efforts at scrambling to jumble/manage input. You can create truly beautiful and artistic things which require delving deeper into, to figure out and draw meaning in the spaces which require time and a fraction of a second more.

I will take your response to heart and try and incorporate and apply the wisdom within it to my life.



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06 Apr 2015, 6:12 pm

For sure. Constantly, still, even with a bunch of meds (which do help.)

My mind never stops. So I try to keep it occupied with interesting things.



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06 Apr 2015, 9:31 pm

I think sparrowblue is on to something when they talk about "anxiety can make us feel this: always being hypervigilant of everything can cause us to look at things in a different way, and eventually detach or burn out and not feel fully present". I feel that this causes an enormous amount of problems though. Do you guys feel that you sometimes act -- just to act, and you may not be doing stuff that is even good for you? I feel like its easy to lose myself with what I want, how I'm acting, how I feel, etc. That's the problem, when you're constantly hypervigilant, you're looking through the world with distorted lenses, and so it makes sense that nothing you will do will make sense and won't match up. This is actually quite scary. ..What to do about it?

My last therapist even slightly diagnosed me with bpd/emotion dysregulation and enrolled me in a DBT program (which I found to be very helpful) because he noticed how dysregulated I was, and all over the place. I wish I knew some answers to this.

So often so many times before I remember feeling, just a bunch of questions swirling around my head - not even a person, with an identity - just a question. A bunch of questions. I don't know if that has to do with that I have ocd, I always assumed because I was told it was ocd.. but I was never satisfied completely with that answer; and always suspected it didn't make sense because it didn't explain what was deeper or why I am like that.
I've always thought it's because I'm severely unconfident, anxious. I'm not sure.



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07 Apr 2015, 12:25 pm

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