Is Arguing All the Time an Autistic Trait?

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22 Oct 2006, 7:43 pm

I argue all the time. I'll argue with nearly anyone for nearly any reason. I'm wondering if this is an autistic trait. Do you argue a lot?


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22 Oct 2006, 7:50 pm

I tend to argue alot... however, part of that reason may be due to the fact that everyone tends to disagree with me...



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22 Oct 2006, 7:57 pm

You argue alot because:

1. Aspies won't buy the "truths" NTs do.

2. NTs disagree with you for not being as stupid and narrowminded as they are.


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22 Oct 2006, 8:15 pm

Arguing a lot seems to be a common Aspie trait. I would say it's because Aspies seem to see everything as very black and white, right and wrong, with no grey areas. And because many of you are so smart, but you can't just let it go and say, "Oh, nevermind, that's just a dumb NT and they'll never understand . . . " :)



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22 Oct 2006, 8:19 pm

I don't think it's so much black and white as it is other issues... (I.E. Society in general...)



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22 Oct 2006, 8:23 pm

I don't know if it is arguing all the time as much as refusing to jump on the bandwagon. Often if you question any part of someone's idealogy or point out another persepctive you are "arguing" with them. So some people I don't bother to even disgree with because of their reactions. However, I do think it is an Aspie thing perhaps to want to point out errors. I was criticized for that on another group - not related to autism- for doing that. Funny thing though was this person asked for input and I pointed out what I saw would be easy rebuttals to their claims. Instead that was seen as being not supportive. I often have trouble resisting pointing out these kinds of things though and I know it is not an endearing quality.



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22 Oct 2006, 8:24 pm

I don't argue all the time. I clarify finer points that people seem to've overlooked.



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22 Oct 2006, 9:18 pm

Flaws in "logic" are as irritating to my mind as wearing a wool shirt.I also like to learn and can only challenge my own "flaws" in logic by playing "devils advocat".I do think the inattention to nonverbals can make it easier for me to "not notice" that someone is saying a statement because they are asking for "support" not clarification of facts.(that gets me into trouble.)

I tend to argue most about things that I have an "interest" in.Over the years that has grown to be a long list....politics,psychology,religion,social injustice,history,gender politics.....All very volatile and likely to piss people off.I have learned, a little better,when someone is not "worth" arguing with.If I notice that someones ability to "reason" is not present,I stop arguing.....eventually.


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22 Oct 2006, 9:45 pm

I used to spend everyday arguing, very angrily. Until one day I realised if I want to get a point across, I need to pick a medium I'm good at and channel it that way.


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22 Oct 2006, 9:47 pm

Thank you for this information.


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22 Oct 2006, 9:51 pm

My son and I are very argumentive, "contrary" and my husband is not.
I like the art of arguing philosophically.
Also, I think being so literal contributes to always "nitpicking" or asking for more explanation. Some people like saying things as dumb jokes and trivia that they think makes them look smart, but I'll contradict them.
I'm a dictionary-fetcher too.



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22 Oct 2006, 10:16 pm

I agree that it isn't so much arguing as wondering - for example, you guys know I'm a vegan and my mother has this big thing about not euthanizing animals because God decides when they should die, BUT wears fur and eats meat . . . I have brought this up many times and been told not to be so condesending and argumentative - but what I really want to know is how she works those two conflicting beliefs out in her mind . . .
In the same vein, I want to meet an abortion person who thinks that it is ok to kill a doctor - I want to know how those two things work together - what is the exact point that they both make sence - or a person who thinks abortion is morally wrong but agrees with the death penenlty - because to me they are opposite and I want to know how they can possibly not seem that way to this person . . .

However, people don't seem to understand that I'm not ridiculing them or anything - I just don't get it and I want to - maybe not adopt their belief, but to say 'Oh - this one time I met someone who thought that way, too, and here is what they told me' . . .



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22 Oct 2006, 10:20 pm

My girlfriend calls me her dictionary :P


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23 Oct 2006, 1:10 am

Other people tell me that I am extremely argumentative. I think they're just pissed because they're wrong all the time. Really, I wouldn't have to argue with people nearly as often if they would just stop saying incorrect things. Since I'm blessed/cursed with a freakishly good memory (by NT standards), I often know the correct answer and have to share it.



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23 Oct 2006, 1:59 am

I dont' know even know the answer, but I can hear a wrong one. Like my father in law blabbing with authority about Mexico. He tried to show off and say something was a tucolatte (too-co-latte). I never heard the word and he was trying to tell me that it was Spanish/Mexican for owl. I said it didn't sound right and he tried to say it was a tribal word or more authentic. Some old dude told him that and so it was right. I finally pulled out my dictionary and the word was tecolote (sounds totally different). He got miffed. I wouldn't have argued the point if he hadn't been so smug about it. I guess it's the context these things happen.



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23 Oct 2006, 2:15 am

I correct people, usually quite gently though, but at the same time I love critique of what I say, do, or create when I'm comfortable.


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