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05 Apr 2007, 4:31 pm

I was just wondering on my way home from college today, if there is a link between introversion and self deprecation. Personally speeking I am a very introverted person, as are most people here I'm sure. I also have the habit of downplaying any positive attributes I may (or may not) have. I am well aware of this, but I was just wondering if the reason why I am so quite and introverted is because I am aware that most of what I say is deprecating is some way. Any sense of humour that I have is also extremly stifiled because most of my jokes are at my own expense. Conversly most of the extraverted people I know are great at talking up their acheivments and there sense of humour is often at the expense of others (there is no real way of saying that without it being an insult is there - to any extraverts here; I mean no offense)

Could this also be why introverted people prefer to converse online, because the option always exists to go back are change what you said?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?



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05 Apr 2007, 5:09 pm

...I tend to depreciate myself .



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05 Apr 2007, 5:59 pm

I'm often self deprecating also. YEAH, I know! You wouldn't think it HERE! I'm also VERY introverted. Even if I am at a party and appear to be very gregarious, etc... it seems everyone knows better. 8-(

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05 Apr 2007, 6:02 pm

I had an imgainary "zine" when I was younger..I complied material for years but never published called SDM...."Self Deprecation Monthy"



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05 Apr 2007, 6:27 pm

Introversion can lead to heightened self-awareness. With this awareness comes the fodder needed to produce self-aggrandization or self-deprecation based on individual personality. Or both!



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05 Apr 2007, 6:31 pm

I'm really introverted and I don't really have low self-esteem as much anymore, but I used to feel that way. I still am lacking in confidence, but I like myself and my differentness. I think understanding myself better and knowing about AS helped that.

I find it easier to talk online especially on message boards probably because there isn't so much pressure on you to talk. I know when I'm talking face to face with people or on IM or chatrooms it becomes more overwhelming and I start realizing how much I suck at conversations.

Also it's much easier to get my thoughts out through writing. I don't really talk the way I write. In real life I hardly say anything.


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05 Apr 2007, 6:52 pm

Yes introverted and yes self depriciating with people I dont know well.

It's not surprising,given hpw many misunderstandings surround people with AS that we would learn to look inside for what is "wrong" with us(as well as seeing what is wrong with others)I found really young(grade school)that if I self-depriciated,I could divert teasing.....if I say it...I get the laugh,if someone else does,they get the laugh....I would follow it up with somethiing depriciating about the person who was trying to tease me....I am pretty good at sarcasm,which means...the tearing of flesh(by the way)If they were attacking me,I just saw it as self-defense.


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05 Apr 2007, 8:02 pm

One thing I hate is self-aggrandizing people. I try to be the exact opposite of that. I hate when people say, "I did this, I did that."



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05 Apr 2007, 8:46 pm

I tend to be both introverted and self-deprecating as well, as though I can't believe that people would think highly of me :lol: It's not all bad, though - I find I tend to try harder than most others in my endeavours, because I fear I won't do a good job, and then am pleasantly surprised when people say I've done a thorough job.

Hope that didn't sound too self-grandising ;)

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I find it easier to talk online especially on message boards probably because there isn't so much pressure on you to talk. I know when I'm talking face to face with people or on IM or chatrooms it becomes more overwhelming and I start realizing how much I suck at conversations.


I get that as well to an extent; I'm usually not very good with one-on-one conversations and I enjoy using message boards. I can handle the mass chatroom but it takes me a while to become comfortable having a conversation with one person. Sometimes, in these situations, I would end up being too self-deprecating and it's offputting to others.


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05 Apr 2007, 11:03 pm

I suppose I can be a little self-deprecating from time to time, but a little modesty as a matter of common courtesy was simply how I was raised. The concept of self-esteem and self-confidence as an all-or-nothing thing strikes me as odd: I am quite confident when I am quite experienced or studied in a particular area, but if I know my skill is lacking in some area, I recognize the fact. I don't beat myself up for it, but having a realistic idea of one's talents and deficits is really helpful. This is why I don't understand why people are attracted to people displaying an all-pervasive self-confidence.



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05 Apr 2007, 11:32 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
I suppose I can be a little self-deprecating from time to time, but a little modesty as a matter of common courtesy was simply how I was raised. The concept of self-esteem and self-confidence as an all-or-nothing thing strikes me as odd: I am quite confident when I am quite experienced or studied in a particular area, but if I know my skill is lacking in some area, I recognize the fact. I don't beat myself up for it, but having a realistic idea of one's talents and deficits is really helpful. This is why I don't understand why people are attracted to people displaying an all-pervasive self-confidence.


I was raised the same way. I always thought it was just because my dad was Irish! The 'pride goeth before a fall' thing. It's actually a good way to live when you have AS, cause that fall's usually just around the corner! A little humility ain't all bad, but our culture preaches just the opposite.



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05 Apr 2007, 11:55 pm

9CatMom wrote:
One thing I hate is self-aggrandizing people. I try to be the exact opposite of that. I hate when people say, "I did this, I did that."


whats up with that? maybe some folks gotta pat themselves on the back a little because nobody else gives a care. guess what i'm saying is we all have our quirks
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06 Apr 2007, 2:16 am

Yes, I am introverted, introspective and alas, my self esteem is incredibly low so I am very self deprecating. I have little confidence in my abilties, and even if I believe I do, I find it uncomfortable to speak well of them to others.


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06 Apr 2007, 5:46 am

Graelwyn wrote:
Yes, I am introverted, introspective and alas, my self esteem is incredibly low so I am very self deprecating. I have little confidence in my abilties, and even if I believe I do, I find it uncomfortable to speak well of them to others.


Well, my self esteem isn't low at all. I am just almost like columbo in this way. I'm good, I know it, but I downplay it, and don't even feel good with praise over a certain point, even if I kind of feel it is deserved.

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