Are you a good liar?

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I saw and episode on Cold Case about and autistic boy that witness the murder of his parents.
One detective said "I have been reading up on autism, and it said all autistics are incapable of lying"
I am autistic and can lie, but I usually only lie to keep out of trouble, especially as a teenager. Like if my mother said "I can smell smoke on your breath have you been smoking?" I would do my darndest to deny it. But I of course so bad at it I just dug myself into a deeper and deep hole the more I opened my mouth.

However I do find it very hard to lie if I have to avoid offending people. Like if a girl walks up to me and says "don't you think I have lost weight?" and I do not notice any difference as she plainly looks flabbier than ever if anything , I may be either tongue tied or just simply be honest and say "no, you look fatter"

I agree with your assessment, I can lie to keep out of trouble, and I'm usually quite bad at it. --Then again, there have been times that I have lied, and been so convincing that I sometimes still wonder how I did it.

I can lie but I literally find it physically uncomfortable to do it... not sure why, but I do. I always have. I lied a lot when I was anorexic, for obvious reasons, but I always felt very uncomfortable with it as I abhor deceit.

The biggest problem is when I lie is that I find it almost physically impossible to look at the person in the eye I am lying to. Being autistic I find eye contact hard enough as it is when I am telling the truth.

I only lie out of necessity, when the situation requires it and I can be good at it too, otherwise I'm brutally honest most of the time.

I agree - I try to lie to get out of the situation, but alot of the time dig myself a hole --facial expresion of the person I am lying too is usually like --well if this guy wants to lye to me so depply and with such a long jsutification, then good on him.... but alot of the time I have perfected it and can get way with it, as long as it's not another Autie that I am lying too! (We pick up on details and can just tell!)

Then ther is my PRivate secrets.... which up untill know have been secret -yet I am divulging right here on this forum...

you see NT's will actually tell these types of secrets - like the methodoligy of ther lying to other people... NT's don't like catologing there deepest secrets,, they can't hold onto them without either forgetting or needing to tell the world.

I have slowly started to learn this trait of the NT - the way they can feel at one with everyone, allowing themselves to be inspected and pryed by their fellow man.... When I am able to 'let go' and divulge my innermost personal workings to the people around me,, I tend to see a different type of body language being directed at me,, the body language looks 'comfortable' with my presence. When I do the bottled up thing,, then the body language is of the type that 'gives away' what the NT is actually thinking when they are lying to my face about whatever they are talking about.

You see NT's lye, about facts and the fact that they don't know a fact - they do it to the piont wher tey believe unto themselves that they are not lying to themselve (a trait that I had picked up from NT's ,, which is what I think makes me Lie, and repeat a Lie, building up, upon the 'facts' untill I eventually dig a hole -becsue i can't trick my mind into thinking that the lies are true like NT's do)

-It's the NT's inability to comprehend each others body langauge (or care for it - they actually do comprehend it, but they are doing it subconsciencly) that makes them all liers. Some of them are soo good at it they turn it into thier job, these types of really good NT's usually end up in the office in top positions, being able to manipulate their way to the top without even knowing that thier method for gettng thier was lie-ing to everyone and themselves. They do it by being able to 'fit in' on the personal level, using fake body langauge, and facts that to an Autie would be just plaing wrong, yet to the manipulted audience that are NT, just 'seem' to be a person which 'gets along' with everyone, and 'knows'more than me. -when in actualltiy when you test one of these maipulalators, they are as dumb as water logged basketball.

SAME HERE! I HATE lying! I wish NOBODY did! I haven't even lied on my resume! I never cheated on a test! I never stole. Heck, TWICE last year I was asked a question I was NEVER asked before, and never wanted to be! A truthful answer could have meant the end of my career(Although it would have been STUPID for them, and senseless, as I am the best they hired, and one declares that with every introduction.)! Can you guess what I DID?????

I told the TRUTH! Interestingly, neither cared! They would have cared if they didn't know me first though.

As for ability? I COULD lie! I could tell you I am a vulcan from pluto with a straight face. I could put fancy things on my resume and present the knowledge to back it up. Heck, I have even been in places to change some financial and health records to back it up. But I can't even get some people to believe the TRUTH sometimes! My mother accused me of things she SWORE she KNEW I did and I couldn't hide, but I never did them! BTW They were simple things like eating cookies, etc... lest you think anything nefarious.

Steve

I used to be a very bad liar, but over the years I've gotten to the point where I could probably be a con artist if I truly wanted. The trick is body langauge - don't fret with anything, don't squirm, speak calmly, look them in the eyes - but don't be intimidating - and they'll almost always believe. (Now if only I could figure out social situations that way!)

I remember last year, in Creative Writing we were instructed to write stories. Then we stood in front of the class and read the story out loud, and the rest had to guess if the story was true or a lie. Only two people lied; one girl was fairly obvious, and not a single person guessed true with her. The other was me. Only one person guessed that I was lying, and that was only because she knew I wasn't afraid of snakes.
What I didn't understand is beforehand the teacher read us a list of signs people make when they lie - increased touching of the face, shifting weight, ect. - and then told us to watch for them. If you know what people expect you to do, why do it? It made no sense to me.

I find it's easier to lie if I can somehow fool myself into believing my lie is true.

I am a very poor liar unless you count lies of omission. They are easy because if the person does not ask me a specific question like "did you do it" I don't feel I have to give a specific answer like yes or no

You do exactly what I do, Paul. I can lie, but I'm so horrible at it that I always get caught. I can't read eyes and so I never know if they believe me. I get even more agitated than usual and I usually end up just telling the truth because I can't handle it. I always wonder how some NTs do it so well with no remorse at all. It's even more confusing to me because the people I notice do that are high Feelers. You'd think they would be too emotional to lie like that without remorse, but it never fails and the rare ones I meet that lie effortlessly are high Feelers. Although I have known many high feelers who didn't lie. Just another inconsistency.

I can't lie, so I'm always honest.

I'm very good at lying, but I feel extremely guilty during the lie and afterwards.

I'm horrible at lying.
If I HAVE to... I prefer to lie by omission- so that everything that I actually do say is true.

I can lie by omission, but I'm not good at the outright type of lie.

In general I do not like lying. I am bad at it, and feel most uncomfortable shoukd I lie. I am not great at telling if someone else is lying either.

HOWEVER

I have whopping imagination. . .

Several years ago a client of mine whosummers here in my town Kwas not in my own business then) kept going on about Shirley McLain "woo woo" stuff. I tried to dissuade him but to no avail.

Finally, one day I decided that if I cannot shut him up I will best him at his own game. To such an extent that:

He believes me to be the inner head of the evil church (~smodeus) that runs North America

I have taken part in human sacrifice in the Visigoth temple imported from southern Europe, and under the pentagon.

I was Eva Braun ib WW II

I had a double who gave her live to save us all when we had to destroy the universe a bit over a year ago.

Imagination, sold here.