Which would you prefer ASD or ASC?

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23 Oct 2018, 2:19 am

ASC= Autism spectrum condition.

I'm told condition is more value neutral.

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23 Oct 2018, 2:33 am

What about

Autism Spectrum Syndrome :?: :twisted:

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23 Oct 2018, 2:38 am

Yes-that's another alternative. Hard to choose between condition and syndrome.

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23 Oct 2018, 3:22 am

ASC

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23 Oct 2018, 3:29 am

I don't really care if it's ASD or ASC. I'm used to ASD by now, and not very eager to change it. It doesn't make any difference to me either way.

liminal wrote:

What about

Autism Spectrum Syndrome :?:

I think I'll pass

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23 Oct 2018, 3:32 am

Skilpadde wrote:

I don't really care if it's ASD or ASC. I'm used to ASD by now, and not very eager to change it. It doesn't make any difference to me either way.

liminal wrote:

What about

Autism Spectrum Syndrome :?:

I think I'll pass

I can certainly act the A- S - S at times.

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23 Oct 2018, 3:47 am

A-S-Ceeee!

Kay Eee WHyyyy!

M-O-U-S-EEEEE!

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23 Oct 2018, 3:51 am

^^ I can too, Firemonkey. But that doesn't mean I want the reminder every time I write the acronyms!

'Syndrome' is accurate enough though.

When I was newer at this, I did have a preference for ASC, but I have become desensitized to it since then.

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23 Oct 2018, 5:02 am

And it says a.s.s

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23 Oct 2018, 6:08 am

firemonkey wrote:

ASC= Autism spectrum condition.

I'm told condition is more value neutral.

I'd probably prefer to stick with ASD, since there doesn't seem to be a very compelling reason to change. I feel there too much tendency these days to "mess" with established things and follow the latest fashion.

On a somewhat related topic, there is an interesting rather extensive survey reported at http://autisticnotweird.com/2018survey/ . It doesn't claim to be scientifically rigorous, but it does seem to have been reasonably well thought out, and it has gathered quite a substantial number of responses. One of the questions addressed in the survey was the choice of language that is used to describe autistic people. The non-autistic respondents heavily favoured "person with autism" over "autistic person." Whereas the autistic respondents very heavily favoured "autistic person" over "person with autism."

In principle I don't really care too much how anyone wants to describe either themselves or anyone else, but I do feel that the modern trend for using the so-called "person-first language" is horribly patronising and just downright irritating!

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23 Oct 2018, 9:48 am

My formal diagnostic report uses ASC (with some qualifiers), but says that it's equivalent to Asperger's Syndrome. This is kind of weird because I was diagnosed in the UK nearly four years ago, well before the ICD-11 was released.

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The non-autistic respondents heavily favoured "person with autism" over "autistic person." Whereas the autistic respondents very heavily favoured "autistic person" over "person with autism."

A survey by the National Autistic Society in the UK found pretty much the same. To their credit, they went with what autistic people themselves preferred in their publications and on their website. From what I've heard, the same is true of other disability communities; e.g. "deaf people", "blind people"...

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23 Oct 2018, 4:07 pm

"condition" is a little less derogatory. Would pick that if it were up to me. But its not something I would picket about.

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23 Oct 2018, 8:31 pm

strings wrote:

Disorder = something is wrong. Disease model. Nothing is wrong with me.

Condition = something is different. Adaptations work to balance conditions. I am fully aware I am different from most others.

ASS, well, sometimes.

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23 Oct 2018, 8:37 pm

I'm indifferent

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23 Oct 2018, 8:57 pm

I'm really used to ASD, and it is easier to type and spell.
However, I prefer ASC for the meaning.
Disorder sounds like something is wrong.
Condition can be good, for instance a Pokemon card in mint condition.

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23 Oct 2018, 9:37 pm

Sukhareva Syndrome https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=c8PP ... fHvwqwcobc (as previously quipped). Not too bothered one way or the other on ASD or ASC, though LSD would be alright.

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