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Undiagnosed people should
not apply at all 14%  14%  [ 2 ]
only apply if they are sure they have autism 14%  14%  [ 2 ]
only apply if they have proof they might be 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
only apply in extreme circumstances 14%  14%  [ 2 ]
apply whenever they want to 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
doesn't matter because AS chooses who wins 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Autism Speaks is evil; take all their money! 36%  36%  [ 5 ]
I don't care 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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17 May 2015, 12:57 am

So I don't really care about this but I'm wondering what other people think. Some time ago, I won this grant from Autism Speaks:

http://www.autismcares.org/site/c.mqLOI ... 1/Home.htm

In the application, I indicated that I was undiagnosed. They didn't ask for any proof. When I finally got the results of my assessment last week, they said that I didn't have Asperger's, so basically I got $1000 that was supposed to be for autistic people and their families even though I'm in neither of those groups.

Do you think it was wrong? Should undiagnosed people not apply for the grant?



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17 May 2015, 2:23 am

Who cares LOL it's Autism Speaks
(being serious)


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17 May 2015, 2:26 am

The website is down for maintenance, I can't answer until I've seen it. Posting so I don't forget, like usual. :?



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17 May 2015, 5:58 am

Ok it's up now.

No, I don't think it's wrong. You had to have:

"Natural disaster: fire, flood, hurricane, tornado, severe storm or earthquake
Death or critical illness in the immediate family
Loss of home through foreclosure, eviction or natural disaster
Loss of job for the primary income-earner
Violence: domestic abuse or crime"

And if you had any of those then it doesn't seem wrong to have money to help. I'd feel dishonest about it but if you need money you need money.



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17 May 2015, 5:59 am

But if you didn't have any of those then no.

So I'd go for in extreme circumstances, so long as you declare you're not diagnosed.



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17 May 2015, 9:19 am

Hmm...maybe donate the money to the autism organizations which actually dedicate their funds to helping people who need it :) (only 4% of Autism Speaks' funds go to helping families in need)



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17 May 2015, 9:29 am

Unless an Autism Speaks grant requires certain repugnant conditions after receiving the grant, I would support accepting the money. After all, it would do more good in the hands of real people with ASD (diagnosed or self-aware) than to remain in their hands. But, I wouldn't intentionally lie to receive the grant.


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17 May 2015, 10:49 am

I feel a moral imperative to parts fools from their money.

Where do I apply?

:lol:



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17 May 2015, 11:47 am

I should have titled this post, "Wrong to take money from autistic people?"



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17 May 2015, 11:57 am

What's the grant for?



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17 May 2015, 11:59 am

kraftiekortie, it's for

iliketrees wrote:
"Natural disaster: fire, flood, hurricane, tornado, severe storm or earthquake
Death or critical illness in the immediate family
Loss of home through foreclosure, eviction or natural disaster
Loss of job for the primary income-earner
Violence: domestic abuse or crime"

I applied for housing reasons. I was homeless at the time.



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17 May 2015, 12:31 pm

I would find it extremely difficult if not impossible to accept any money from them.


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17 May 2015, 12:54 pm

starkid wrote:
kraftiekortie, it's for
iliketrees wrote:
"Natural disaster: fire, flood, hurricane, tornado, severe storm or earthquake
Death or critical illness in the immediate family
Loss of home through foreclosure, eviction or natural disaster
Loss of job for the primary income-earner
Violence: domestic abuse or crime"

I applied for housing reasons. I was homeless at the time.


You declared you were undiagnosed and were in an extreme circumstance. I see absolutely nothing wrong with what you did.



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17 May 2015, 3:42 pm

You thought you had it when you applied & you could still use the money even thou the assessment said you don't have it & assessments can be wrong so there's not harm in taking it. If AS wanted you to be sure you had it; they would of required documentation.


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17 May 2015, 4:13 pm

starkid wrote:
I should have titled this post, "Wrong to take money from autistic people?"
Being on the ASD spectrum myself, I see nothing wrong with taking money from Autism Speaks. I mean, they offer money for people like us, so why not take it?



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17 May 2015, 6:07 pm

I don't know what your situation is right now, but I probably wouldn't accept it if I were in your shoes. This grant is one of the few things AS is doing that is beneficial to autistic people and their families. You can't really justify taking the grant money if you don't meet the full criteria for recieving it. Yes, they have deep pockets, but it still won't change the fact that there is somebody out there who was denied this grant who probably needed it as desperately as you.

I don't blame you for wanting to keep it, though. If you have to eat, you have to eat.