Pity benefits?
Hey y'all,
One subject I've wondered about AS (as someone who quite possibly has it [kindergarten teacher suspected it, have been compared to Rain Man once or twice in math class, & a couple ppl made comments pertaining to this]), one thing I have been blessed with is a lot of people who tolerate and/or enjoy talking with me. Part of it may be that my interests (politics, religion, philosophy, & academic/psychometric stuff) lend themselves well to discussion, but another thing I admit might be a contributing factor: pity about low socialization ability.
See, I was elected prom king recently at my school; usually, it's always the sociable jock who gets the prize, but I got it this year, which made me pretty happy (though I admittedly didn't like all the extra attention). I admit to also having gotten special treatment from teachers (like a pass on an incomplete assignment or the benefit of the doubt on grading essays/written stuff) because of an appearance of "innocence."
So, long story short, here's what I'm curious about: is it common to get special things due to one's social ineptness? I feel a little mixed about it. As much as I'd like to think all of my accomplishments were my own doing, I know the external factors that gave me a boost. It would be interesting to see others' stories about this.
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As they say "anything is possible" but it would be quite unusual for an "aspie" to have great social success. It varies but most autistics experience isolation, ridicule or bullying. Besides Aspergers/Autism is a lot, a very lot more then just social awkwardness.
List of Characteristics of autism
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“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman
List of Characteristics of autism
OK. I'll bold the ones that apply to me now, italicize those that did when I was younger.
Very little or no eye contact.
Resistance to being held or touched.
Tends to get too close when speaking to someone (lack of personal space).
Responds to social interactions, but does not initiate them.
Does not generally share observations or experiences with others.
Difficulty understanding jokes, figures of speech or sarcasm.
Difficulty reading facial expressions and body language.
Difficulty understanding the rules of conversation.social skill deficits
Difficulty understanding group interactions.
[b]Aversion to answering questions about themselves.
[/b]Gives spontaneous comments which seem to have no connection to the current conversation.
Makes honest, but inappropriate observations.
Seems unable to understand another’s feelings.
Prefers to be alone, aloft or overly-friendly.
Difficulty maintaining friendships.
Finds it easier to socialize with people that are older or younger, rather than peers of their own age.
Unaware of/disinterested in what is going on around them.
Talks excessively about one or two topics (dinosaurs, movies, etc.).
Overly trusting or unable to read the motives behinds peoples’ actions.
Minimal acknowledgement of others.
That kind of thing can happen--very occasionally, a school accepts a special needs person as a sort of mascot and gives them extra kindness. I remember there was a guy in my school who seemed kind of "simple" (like a Forest Gump type) that everyone would say "Hi" to in the halls; he was elected homecoming king one year.
If you want to be treated as an equal, it iS kind of insulting to be singled out for extra kindness. All I can say is that it's better than the flip side of the coin: being singled out for bullying. :/
After spending K thru 1st grade in mainstream classes, and 2nd thru 7th in gifted and talented classes, in 8th grade I was sent to a special education school.
At the end of the year they had a graduation ceremony where they handed out a bunch of recognitions and awards. I think that the idea was so everyone would get recognized for something. Anyway they ended up giving me like three times more awards than anyone else, they kept calling my name and I had to keep going up on stage for all these different certificates. And after four or five of these (I got 17 altogether and I don't think anyone else got more than six) I started to get pissed off because if they were going to give me that many then to me it felt like pity and they didn't mean anything at all in that case. At this point in my life I'd never won anything except for a spelling bee, so to win so much all at once felt incredulous.
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If you want to be treated as an equal, it iS kind of insulting to be singled out for extra kindness. All I can say is that it's better than the flip side of the coin: being singled out for bullying. :/
I agree. For me, it's tough to determine if something is due to pity or actual, genuine liking; another complicating factor is that "special needs" doesn't really apply to m in the traditional sense, as I have always been an honors student and will be attending Stanford in the fall. But I admit to struggling with social aspects, and it's tough to know if I get pity or am actually appreciated for being myself...
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One subject I've wondered about AS (as someone who quite possibly has it [kindergarten teacher suspected it, have been compared to Rain Man once or twice in math class, & a couple ppl made comments pertaining to this]), one thing I have been blessed with is a lot of people who tolerate and/or enjoy talking with me. Part of it may be that my interests (politics, religion, philosophy, & academic/psychometric stuff) lend themselves well to discussion, but another thing I admit might be a contributing factor: pity about low socialization ability.
See, I was elected prom king recently at my school; usually, it's always the sociable jock who gets the prize, but I got it this year, which made me pretty happy (though I admittedly didn't like all the extra attention). I admit to also having gotten special treatment from teachers (like a pass on an incomplete assignment or the benefit of the doubt on grading essays/written stuff) because of an appearance of "innocence."
So, long story short, here's what I'm curious about: is it common to get special things due to one's social ineptness? I feel a little mixed about it. As much as I'd like to think all of my accomplishments were my own doing, I know the external factors that gave me a boost. It would be interesting to see others' stories about this.
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