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19 Jan 2007, 5:00 pm

I figured that it might not be that bad being to Aspie compared with being an NT at the bottom of the social pecking order. I am sure that there are probably more lower-cast NT as there are Aspie, who find it hard socially as well as finding someone special.

I am a fighter and I will fight until things improve, I am resourceful, logical, and analytical and willing to do my homework to tackle problems. I don’t have to tell you pros of have Aspergers syndrome. I cannot imagine being in same situation, but without any aspies strengths, and end up turning to other NTs for advice and all they do is lie or give inaccurate advice. If things don’t change then I will shake things up a little until they do.

As a woman who would you choose a NT with charm, the looks, the money or an NT with little charm, no looks, no money would or would you like to leave the small world of meaningless smalltalk conversation and be with an aspie who is interested in the wonderful world of science.

I have to leave the computer now I want to go for a shlt



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19 Jan 2007, 7:07 pm

sure i get frustrations and yeah it freaks me out when i see things other people don't. but what matter in my opinion is that i'm alive, i can be productive and i can live my life to it's fullest. and as stone cold once said "AND THT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!"



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25 Jan 2007, 11:24 pm

Okay. But it ain't that great either.

As a woman who would you choose a NT with charm, the looks, the money or an NT with little charm, no looks, no money would or would you like to leave the small world of meaningless smalltalk conversation and be with an aspie who is interested in the wonderful world of science.

I'm not a woman, but I think that the answer to that question is obvious. Whichever one has the best looking car!



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27 Jan 2007, 10:33 pm

Personally what "aspergers" is is not even known, for now its just a label of a collection of traits shared by many guys, and a few girls.

The label "Aspergers" to me is simply phenotype classification based on similarity.

The real problem with being Aspie is not so much with 'being aspie', it has to do more with a persons mental model of what behaviours are rewarded, and which are not. In an aspie most aspies do not get any kind of positive feelings from socializing, the seek *stimulation*, not emotional bonding, this is the difference between NT's and Aspies, NT's will communicate just to be around other people and share good feelings. Aspies want *stimulation*, I think most aspies could care less about social relationships, what they really want is simply to get good enough socially to maintain relationships with women. Aspies have an easier time with guys because guys require less social investment to have a good time, guys can have a good time playing video games, or whatever common interest without having to be super social all the time.

MAny girls are the opposite, they need someone thats going to talk and talk and talk to them, tell them stories, entertain them, etc... its like having an overgrown baby... not all girls are like that, but most prefer it if you are socially adjusted and a bonus if you are a social butterfly.



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30 Jan 2007, 8:28 pm

^--------- this may be partitially true but I think that it's an oversimplification.

I get lonely, and it's not just because I don't have a girl in my life. I need to have people around that I can relate to. If I could meet people who think the way I think so I wouldn't have to tailor my thoughts to fit in with theirs, I'd be as social as anyone else.



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31 Jan 2007, 5:25 pm

Mordy wrote:
Aspies have an easier time with guys because guys require less social investment to have a good time, guys can have a good time playing video games, or whatever common interest without having to be super social all the time.

MAny girls are the opposite, they need someone thats going to talk and talk and talk to them, tell them stories, entertain them, etc... its like having an overgrown baby... not all girls are like that, but most prefer it if you are socially adjusted and a bonus if you are a social butterfly.



This is why, even though I'm a girl, I have always had more guy friends and prefer to have guys for friends rather than girls. Girls require too much effort and tend to be too catty.


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31 Jan 2007, 6:11 pm

Oh yes.
Many groups of people endure such suffering hard to comprehend.
The plight of the average Aspie is relatively a picnic.

For example, "I have to leave the computer now I want to go for a shlt".
How many groups of people cannot utilize a computer ?
And there are some groups who may need help going for a s**t.



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01 Feb 2007, 2:39 pm

Meh. I tend to think of certain NTs as like a pack of wolves.

A pack of canines—most notably wolves, the domestic dog, and some other wild canines—is a group of animals that is organised according to a strict social hierarchy.

The size of the pack may change over time and is controlled by factors including individual personalities.

Dispersing individuals must avoid the territories of other wolves because intruders on "owned" territories are chased away or killed.

Omegas at the bottom - being treated like **** is better than solitaryness.


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01 Feb 2007, 11:01 pm

chipmunk wrote:

This is why, even though I'm a girl, I have always had more guy friends and prefer to have guys for friends rather than girls. Girls require too much effort and tend to be too catty.


true true...


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23 Mar 2007, 5:44 am

I feel the need (perhaps due to inebriation) to say ok.



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23 Mar 2007, 6:32 am

Aspies have an easier time with guys because guys require less social investment to have a good time, guys can have a good time playing video games, or whatever common interest without having to be super social all the time.

MAny girls are the opposite, they need someone thats going to talk and talk and talk to them, tell them stories, entertain them, etc... its like having an overgrown baby... not all girls are like that, but most prefer it if you are socially adjusted and a bonus if you are a social butterfly.

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23 Mar 2007, 8:59 am

I went out with my work colleagues and my NT-geek friend, they were not too impressed with him. They said that I had much better social skills then he does and don’t follow in his footsteps.

One of the intellectual member of staff said he is a bit weird but from my point of view there is nothing controversial about him at all except that he dances like Kraftwerk in concert.

I want him to find someone special almost more then I want someone for myself.



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23 Mar 2007, 9:00 am

I went out with my work colleagues and my NT-geek friend, they were not too impressed with him. They said that I had much better social skills then he does and don’t follow in his footsteps.

One of the intellectual member of staff said he is a bit weird but from my point of view there is nothing controversial about him at all except that he dances like Kraftwerk in concert.

I want him to find someone special almost more then I want someone for myself.



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23 Mar 2007, 9:02 am

Since I have overcome most of my worst problems from childhood, my life is great. The only time I am conscious of being different is when I mess up on tasks other people call "no brainers." I feel really embarrassed about messing something up when people say "Oh, that's easy."



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23 Mar 2007, 10:16 am

It's like owning your own planet. It can be lonely, but that entire world is YOURS. (Kudos to the title of this website.) Truth to tell, most people have to give up a lot that we Aspies have in order to function well socially. You basically have to give lots of people, both those you know and those you don't, significant and varying control of all aspects of your life -- even aspects you're not aware of until you get screwed over in one of them by some immature jackass whom you let get too close unaware. Indeed, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, whether you're an NT frustrated that his logic is failing him at a critical moment, or an Aspie trying to party hardy. Without the ability to be content, you could be the richest, luckiest person on earth and still be pissed off. So if you learn contentment, you've won the game.



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23 Mar 2007, 11:01 am

and we have Aspie Botox.

all this not contorting our faces all the time thing, means we don't go so wrinkly.

hmm....I wonder if I could sell Aspergers as a cure for wrinkles!! !
then again no, having to spend time with hoards of vacant Hollywood Actresses and Anne Robinson...

sssh ....keep it a secret!