Interesting Red Dwarf Novel Quote (a bit of a read)

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23 Mar 2007, 12:15 am

This is from the Red Dwarf novel. A character, Rimmer, is reflecting on why he never made it in life.

Red Dwarf Novel wrote:
He'd never had a break, Never. And so much of his life was luck.
Luck.
If Napoleon had been born Welsh, would his destiny have been the same? If he'd been raised in Colwyn Bay, would he have been a great general? Of course he wouldn't. He'd have married a sheep and worked in a local Fish and Chips shop. But no - he'd had the luck to be born Corsica, just at the right moment in history when the French were looking for a short, brilliant Fascist dictator.
Luck.
Van Gogh. Wasn't it sheer good fortune that Van gogh was raving mad? Wasn't that why his cornfields looked like they did? Wasn't that why he did several hundred paintings of his old boots? Wasn't that why his paintings were so innovative? Because he had the happy luck to be born with a leak in his think tank?
Luck!
And what about John Merrick? The jammy bastard-born looking like an elephant. How can you fail? You just stand around while people goggle at you, and you rake it in.
Rimmer was too normal, that was his problem. Too ordinary, and normal, healthy and bland. A bit of madness, a spot of deafness, the looks of an elephant, a birthplace like Corsica, and he could have been somebody.


Interesting, no?


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23 Mar 2007, 1:11 am

I remember that quote. Perhaps more uplifting is his thoughts on overcoming his 'disability', being dead....

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Nelson had one eye and one arm. Caesar was an epileptic. Napoleon, the man himself, suffered so badly from gonorrhoea and syphilis, he could barely pee. It seemed a veritable boon to Rimmer that the only disability he appeared to have was being dead!


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23 Mar 2007, 4:51 am

I'm a fan of Red Dwarf, but I didn't know there's a novel? Which came first, novel or tv show?

That passage you quoted from the novel brings to mind the tv episode where Rimmer's alternative reality showed up - the guy he could have been? The handsome, big hero.

Do you agree with Rimmer's thoughts on luck?



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23 Mar 2007, 5:23 am

What, that it's a virus?

The novels were existent due to the contract. For every few series, I guess they had to make a novel too.

The novels follow very closely too the episodes, and yet they don't. For example, I once had Me squared and Kryten Episodes at the same time! But they also deviate as well (for example, they visit Garbage World)


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23 Mar 2007, 6:02 am

There are 3 or 4 novels plus a few other miscellaneous books, like the Red Dwarf Survival Kit. I believe the series came first, and then thee books expounded and went beyond the curent season, and then shows were written from the same source. They are mostly the same, but with a few key differences. For instance, if you remember the episode DNA (where Kryton becomes human) it is Kochanski, not Lister, who comes to see how he is getting on in the infirmary.


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23 Mar 2007, 7:57 am

Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers basically novelises "The End", "Future Echoes", "Kryten", "Me[sup]2[/sup]" and "Better Than Life".

Better Than Life picks up where Infinity leaves off, novelising "Better Than Life", "Marooned", "Polymorph", and taking aspects from "Backwards". Apparently the episode "White Hole" was based on elements of the novel that occurred later in the episode (Holly's IQ expansion, "playing pool with planets")

Here the novel continuities branch drastically, as Rob Grant and Doug Naylor made their own, continuity-exclusive Red Dwarf novels.

Last Human Basically takes plots from "Quarantine", "DNA" (as noted before), "Back to Reality", "Emohawk: Polymorph II", "Psirens" and "Legion". It features Kochanski in Starbug, but in her CP Grogan version, but with elements that would make it into Chloe Annet's version. It also features paralell versions of the Dwarf crew, including a very different Lister...

Backwards mainly takes elements from "Backwards", "Dimension Jump" and "Gunmen of the Apocalypse". Kochanski is left on the backwards Earth, and it has a sadder ending, though Last Human has tragic elements to its ending...


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23 Mar 2007, 6:15 pm

I like Rimmer. Completely hopeless is he.

I can also really relate to Kryten with his learning.

And his high-pitched:

"You're lying! !! !"



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23 Mar 2007, 6:29 pm

I love Red Dwarf, but I haven't read any of those novels.

Rimmer Experience FTW.



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26 Mar 2007, 3:57 am

ever since i found out i was AS, i wondered if the character Rimmer was as well......

i know the writers would have planned this, and they obviously took the character type from people they knew... but he DOES show the characteristics....


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26 Mar 2007, 5:45 am

Aspie_for_the_Lord wrote:
ever since i found out i was AS, i wondered if the character Rimmer was as well......

i know the writers would have planned this, and they obviously took the character type from people they knew... but he DOES show the characteristics....


Heheh, yeah. The Cat too. So self-centered!


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26 Mar 2007, 5:53 am

in fact..... now that i think about it.... they ALL are..... Holly and Kochanski too....

think of that... the last remaining humans and products of humans are all Aspie :lol: :lol: :lol:


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26 Mar 2007, 5:55 am

Haha!

Wait, didn't it say the human race started as slime and ended as slime? (Dave Lister)

I'd love to own a miniature of the Dwarf. Both the old and new versions.


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