I'm "over imaginative" and my thoughts are too complex

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17 Jul 2015, 9:15 am

I'm just wondering why I am (or have become) this way.
I think it started in the puberty which is the same time we emigrated to Germany.
I just think too much.
I'm not that creative but I imagine all kind of situations that would never ever happen and then it goes like in a "what-if-then" tree and I imagine all the possibilities, mostly in words. (one example: what if move to US and become suspected of "whatever" in the US because I'm Iranian (and all the possible outcomes, my possible reactions etc.). I'll never go to US to begin with. why am I thinking this stuff?)

The other thing is that my thought processes are just too complicated / elaborate / whatever. Whenever I think of a very simple issue, I start coming up with a million possible co-factors etc. It's not like my thoughts don't make sense. They make sense (ok trying to tell someone is another story. their working memory fails mostly in the middle of my explanations), but sometime I catch myself trying to achieve something (simulating it in my head of course. I never achieved ANYTHING) by manipulating factors that would affect the outcome over 6 indirect steps. And needless to say, by doing this, I totally miss the very obvious solutions. (example: I tried to take whatever supplement to indirectly reduce BDNF in my brain but I neglect to drink water or eat food for days.)

By doing these, I have lost all emotional contact with reality >OR< I lack emotional contact with reality ANYWAYS so I make this shoot up to entertain myself ---> you decide. I can't. But both thinking like I'm doing a brain marathon since 15 years and lacking emotional contact with reality sucks.
Any solutions?
or am I just this way and it's part of my personality?


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17 Jul 2015, 9:35 am

You have lots of good and excellent ideas.

Maybe try to edit yourself to the point where you present one idea at a time?



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17 Jul 2015, 9:37 am

i do this too. i think things to death and i have been that way since i was a kid. we need to find something that uses all that brain energy.



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17 Jul 2015, 9:44 am

if you find yourself "spinning out of control" with your thoughts, not necessarily being anxious, but just having "too many thoughts", what helps to bring me back down "to reality" is just resting my attention on my surroundings. meditation really helps. i sit outside and close my eyes and listen to the birds, and if my mind starts to wander i just gently rest my attention back on my surroundings. it takes practice to train your mind not to wander so much, because your brain gets stuck in different thought patterns. taking a walk will help also. just anything to stop the "what if trees" that's a great way to describe it.



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17 Jul 2015, 9:48 am

There's one person here who sort of writes like you: Olive Oil Mom.

Write something to her. See what she says. She's a professional writer who writes "stream-of-consciousness" stuff similar to your stuff.



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17 Jul 2015, 12:03 pm

I'm wondering why from all the forums and people in the world, you are the only people that understand what I say the way I mean it and do not tell me ape poo crazy stuff I can not comprehend when I share my thoughts.
And they keep telling me that i'm either 1. schizophrenic 2. extremely neurotic 3. simulating in order to stay on disability.


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17 Jul 2015, 12:07 pm

I, for one, understand writing. There are other people here who understand it as well. We can distinguish between creativity and stark insanity.

Who is Uncle Simon?



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17 Jul 2015, 1:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Who is Uncle Simon?


Simon Baron Cohen


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17 Jul 2015, 4:36 pm

omid wrote:
I'm wondering why from all the forums and people in the world, you are the only people that understand what I say the way I mean it

Probably because we're autistic too.

I think I recognise your thinking style. I couldn't think in a linear style to save my life, it's all tangential, millions of thoughts flying out of my brain, and I can't seem to stop trying to resolve them all, as if I ever could. The only thing that seems to help is for me to calm down. But it's ultimately self-regulating. Eventually I become exhausted and fall asleep.



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17 Jul 2015, 4:40 pm

It's also "stream-of-consciousness" writing. It's somewhat similar, at least, to the writing of the Beat Generation.



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17 Jul 2015, 5:06 pm

we dont think you're crazy because we understand what you're saying.



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17 Jul 2015, 7:10 pm

An example of my over thinking in action. I decided a few weeks ago that the kitchen food cupboards needed tidying as the food no longer fit into them nicely as the space was poorly utilised. I set aside a day to do this. I began by thinking I could just sort the three cupboards with food in to begin with. But then I supposed that an additional cupboard was full of cups and glasses we didn't use so if I dealt with that I could get some additional cupboard space. But then I would need to drive to the dump to get rid of the vessels I was throwing out. That would mean I would need to get washed and dressed before I started and find bags to put the rubbish in. And maybe I should sort a couple more cupboards and the fridge out as well in case there was rubbish in those that I could also take to the dump to save filling up the bin. That all sounded like it would take a long time so I had better go online and check the dump opening hours. Then I would probably be quite tired but I was still going to have to come back and clean ALL the cupboards and the fridge. Then I could start arranging the food (this last line only being my original purpose, but I had lost track of that by then).

The above is the simplified version of what actually happened, which to an outsider consisted of an hour of doing nothing but periodically looking at the kitchen (thinking), followed by an hour of crying because it had all got so complicated and overwhelming I didn't know where to start, followed by giving up completely and going out for a walk.

And that was for what should have been a fairly simple task!



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17 Jul 2015, 7:31 pm

You know what that's called? That's called opening up Pandora's Boxes!

I don't find the above to be "overthinking" at all.

I find it to be a case of "one thing leads to another, and without the other, the one will not be done."



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17 Jul 2015, 9:10 pm

Iran has lots of great history, actually.

Teheran is a city with a nice setting--though it's in a valley, so it has an air-pollution problem similar to LA's.