Joe90 wrote:
Yeah, that seems like the way it should work but sadly it doesn't. Aspies have the burden of having to remember to act appropriately at all times, while most NTs - who "know what they're doing" - basically get away with any inappropriate behaviour, when it's against an Aspie of course.
It's like NT behaviour against Aspies (or against anyone different but let's just use Aspie Vs NT here just for simplicity's sake) is "human nature", and that it's OK for a group of NTs to gang up on an Aspie and make his life miserable because, well, that's what apes do to protect themselves and survive, so there you go, that's just NTs being ordinary civilized human beings: picking on someone different just because their ancient ape ancestors did it - even though humans aren't particularly going to die if they don't bully but there you have it, there's your answer. Sometimes Aspies have even been told to understand their bullies. Wait, what?!
But if an Aspie decides to do what our ancient ape ancestors have done for years and bully someone "weaker" to help ourselves survive, oh dear.
That is not appropriate ever, you mean, heartless son of a b***h Aspie, don't you have any consideration for that person? Don't you know how you're making them feel? How do you live with yourself? Go away in the corner and think about what you did, you brutal, savage, inhumane, barbaric, barbarous, brutish, bloodthirsty, murderous, homicidal, vicious, ferocious, fierce, wicked, evil, fiendish, devilish, diabolical, heinous, abominable, monstrous, atrocious, vile, hideous, ghastly, nasty, spiteful, mean motherfucka from hell!
Sorry, there's sarcasm mixed in there, expressing the way I feel about NT Vs autistic double standards.
(Not aimed at OP).
Yere, I would say that a great deal of human behaviour when examined by clinical psychologists, is nothing more than sadistic bullying.
People bully to get what they want and to ruin other peoples lives. People bully to get jobs, girl friends, boy friends, people also bully to ruin other peoples prospects without a reason, some bully to gain popularity among the lower minded, some bully through prejudice, bigotry, sadism, some do it cause they enjoy watching others suffer. Some will bully simply because they can, because they are bigger and stronger, their are connected to power which they can use to bully others etc. Its all really sick. A sick civilisation that pretty much runs on bullying.
Why people bully, I think that each individual has their own reasons, sometimes the individual doesn't always understand why they do what they do.
I think that what happens in the human world is very similar to what primates do in the wild, again, with the primates also having various motives as to why they bully.
In the human world, I say that some bully for simple reasons.
Human A wants something that Human B has, so Human A bullies Human B. That's simply enough to understand.
Other scenarios may involve more sophisticated forms of manipulation and be motivated by more complex emotions caused by even more complex factors such as upbringing, early life experiences, inherited genetic weakness causing mental illnesses and conditions such as ASD....
I would say however, it is through bullying that some of the least intelligent, criminally minded people whom i have had contact with in life, succeed in business. Through stealing, lying, slandering gang stalking, gang bullying, to steal from their victims and ruin their reputations, while taking advantage of any opportunity or business connection that arises.
Some of the people I know, who ironically live on the same small island that I live on, are capable of inciting people to commit suicide, and I think this group of people have done so many times, but get away with what they do because part of the clique include children of the wealthy elite who live in the island, who's parents are lawyers, judges, owners of some of the businesses. As the old saying goes, money talks.
As for asking someone to see their titties, I wouldn't have said that such a behaviour was bullying, just simply rude.
Although haven grown up in the rave scene, in the 90s, someone saying such a thing wouldn't really have been that out of place, even for people who are NT. For example, if someone said it at a rave, the girl may have even complied or said something rude back. Usually, considered just good old fashioned childish humour rather than anything deeply offensive.
Keep in mind that people who frequented the raves were usually extremely intoxicated, preferably with narcotics as well as alcohol. So someone making such a remark, wouldn't have really been considered an offense, just a rude remark, that would be treated with the contempt it deserves, rather than taking such a minor incident so extremely serious.
But I guess that was the 90s, and due to how toxicically over sensationalized everything is in our politically minded world, every person does now gets overly scrutinised, cross analysed and punished with the 3rd Degree. Witch hunts for everyone but the witches who are pointing the fingers.
One of the biggest flaws of modern society is the acceptance that humans have a human nature, which justifies bad behaviour, and which doesn't require forgiveness.
Also, without a spiritual path, people lose their wisdom as to how to act, as well as their higher nature or higher purpose. A soul without a higher purpose is like a boat without a rudder.
Just using up their life opportunities going from one whim to another, for personal entertainment, without any real purpose.
Personally, if someone with ASD said something risque to me, which was a little rude.
Then i would likely not get offended and forgive it, and if anything put it into perspective
especially if they have the condition, and laugh it off. But that's me I guess.
I guess i would be kind instead, perhaps by giving some discreet advice to the "offender" for their minor misdemeanor rather than use the minor incident as an excuse to get everyone to bully the offender for daring to act in a manner that I personally find offensive.
Which of the two would be a worse act, a person with ASD acting slightly inappropriately or a person using the minor incident to violently assault the individual or subject them to psychological abuse for his / her slightly inappropriate behaviour? (behaviour that sometimes fits certain personality disorders such as histrionic personality disorder and disorders where more manipulative people actually create the grounds for them to then step in and save the day, extremely strange).
26 Dec 2020, 6:26 pm
