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believe in God or some kind of higher power?
yes 38%  38%  [ 24 ]
no 42%  42%  [ 27 ]
other 20%  20%  [ 13 ]
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28 Mar 2007, 10:45 am

I don't mean to offend anyone with this question but do Aspies tend not to believe in God or some kind of higher power?



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28 Mar 2007, 10:53 am

Could be a tendancy. A longer-standing member than I earlier remarked that this forum was majority atheistic, which would be a resounding yes.

Personally, however, I believe in a deific force which caused the creation of the universe. I'm a pretty typical practicing jew, actually.



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28 Mar 2007, 11:01 am

We had a thread in which persons took a test for personality disorders and
Schizotypal personality disorder scored high amoung alot of members here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypa ... y_disorder So while the logical
nature makes alot of aspies atheist those with Schizotypal features maybe very religious.



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28 Mar 2007, 11:07 am

I dont think AS can be defined by spiritual beliefs or lack there of. The full range of spiritual or religious beliefs can be found at one time or another in AS. I do think that it is similar to the talkative or quiet thing, aspies tend to be extreme one way or the other. Me, Im on a mission from God.


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28 Mar 2007, 11:12 am

I have my own invented religion based upon a plaster statue that sits on a shrine in my bedroom.
http://www.myspace.com/wingedgnomegoddess

But if it wasn't for her, I'd be an athiest....Even had trouble with conventional religion when I was too young to know any better when the neighbors tried to earn extra god points by dragging me to church on the "Take a Godless Heathen Child To Church" program.



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28 Mar 2007, 11:14 am

Well, if you met me when I was about 14 or 15, I was the most religious kid in the world. But later on, I just didn't see God as a factor in my life, and I've been an atheist ever since.


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28 Mar 2007, 12:47 pm

I was brought up in a deeply christian household, but just didn't get it, (amongst everything else). Now I am a pagan, so I can go my own way.


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28 Mar 2007, 12:52 pm

I was also brought up by a deeply religious schizotypal mother, but once I reached puberty, I decided that the concept of god was very silly, and I became an atheist.



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28 Mar 2007, 1:02 pm

I forgot to add that I was brought up in a more-or-less agnostic/pagan household.

..my parents thought I should figure out the sprituality stuff on my own..so they let the neighbors take me to church..and often in summer the only thing to do to get out of the house (for us poor kids) was go to vacation bible school..actually I think it is kinda neat that I got to be this weird annoying nonconformist kid that the church people couldn't get through to...In the church rituals I was always doing things out of order...going where I wasn't supposed to go...stimming like crazy during sermons...messing up the pagents because I didn't understand the directions.....and not buying any of the christianity stuff.



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28 Mar 2007, 1:15 pm

Most people seem to think that I'm very spiritual but not very autistic.


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28 Mar 2007, 1:40 pm

I'm very spiritual, but I don't believe in a "Higher Power". The gods and goddesses I work with represent to me the different forms of energy in the universe, and I reach those energies through their symbol. I don't think that energy is a higher power because we're all energy and equal. I also don't believe in good or evil, which gets many people's feathers all a ruffle.

To be very honest though, I'm probably agnostic because I understand that we really *don't* know anything for sure.


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28 Mar 2007, 1:54 pm

I used to be very religional when I was 7-8 years old, but it's declined through the years and when I was 11 I was totally against the idea of God, and therefore, an atheist. I'm not really spiritual either... I believe in ghosts, but not in an afterlife or in fate and things like that...



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28 Mar 2007, 3:07 pm

I am not spiritual whatsoever. And I abhor organized religion. But I do believe in God. That's whole extent of my thoughts about God.



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28 Mar 2007, 3:26 pm

Back in elementary school, when kids would find out I didn't believe in god they always wanted to take me to church. Since I was so desperate to have friends I'd usually go, and also went to several vacation bible schools with them...but I never felt comfortable. The last time I ever went, my incredible clumsiness caused me to fall off a stage that we were doing some activity on. I hurt myself, got laughed at, and felt like a complete idiot as usual.



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28 Mar 2007, 3:29 pm

The closest thing to a religion I have is Agnosticism. I'm EXTREMELY spititual,but not very religious.


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28 Mar 2007, 4:16 pm

To me, religion is man made rules. These may help one get closer to God, therefore, I am religious in the sense that I partake in rituals such as church and other things, but I don't think of myself as religious, because Jesus was more against religion than he was for it. He was mad at the pharisees for following manmade rules and forgetting a relationship with God. Most of you are defining spirituality as beleiving in the existence of the supernatural but not following a greater system of beliefs about it, and religion is anything that is a larger system of beleifs. According to those definitions, I am relgious. But they way I define religion, I am spiritual more than religious. I see Catholics as very religious but not very spiritual (in general) and I don't think thats how christianity is meant at all.

Also, in a certain sense, I don't beleive Christianity is a religion. I see "a religion" as meaning a set of beliefs on how to act and best live your life, under a higher power such as God. Certainly this is part of Christianity, but Christ didn't claim to be just one way that works good, he claimed to be absolute truth. If something IS absolutely true, encompassing all reality, I don't think you could just call it a religion, it is reality.

Of course that is from a perspective of a beleiver, Muslims would say the same about their religion, and I won't know the answer for sure until I die. But Christianity is extremely rare in its exclusive claim on truth. No other religion before it or before the Jews made such a claim. Some such as Islam or Mormonism do now, but they are borrowing from judeochristianity. That Judeochristianity was the first ever to make such a radical claim not to be a religion but to be simply truth says to me that it is something special. Also, it was the first monotheistic religion (that we know of) with exception of zoroastrianism.

Seems like a lot of people with AS like the logic of a scientific world view, but interestingly, my own logical and scientific views have to me supported christianity. I get major doubts and I think God is getting defeated, then suddenly BAM the answer comes, and God answers more than scientism could. The more this happens, the more I am amazed and incredulous that it just keeps on answering these things, things that I have gotten scared of losing my faith over.