Neonazis and Aspies?

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I was watching a documentary on Netflix called Welcome to Leith. The main neonazi claimed that he had Asperger Syndrome. Now every person I've met with Asperger Syndrome is fair-minded, not racist or anti-semetic and anti-bullying. I'm kind of sick of every screwball claiming that he or she has Asperger Syndrome. Of course, it always makes the news that some criminal also has Asperger Syndrome. Does anyone disagree with me?

Anyone can have Asperger's. Baddies can have it, racists, bullies, etc. I have been bullied by aspies online and I have been rejected by them too and judged. I have seen racist ones too online. I even knew an aspie in real life who was a bully and he also bullied his mother to get his way she she was his doormat and he was in control of her. He was also pretty manipulative and was a pathological liar. His way of being manipulative was lying about his actions and playing the victim and he could change his behavior if he wanted to so with his dad home, he acted better but with him gone, he was back to being abusive again with his mother because he knew he can control her but he can't control his father. He acted better at my house too because "he was a guest" but yet he bullied my brothers and then would tell me how "mean" they were to him. But in school he bullied everyone including teachers. It was like he had different personalities so once we got to his house, bam he was someone else. He was also diagnosed with ODD.

Dont blame you if that guy made you loose your lunch.

But I think that you're making a whole bunch of generalizations.
Aspies are subject to the same human failings as NTs.

And that guy might well have been a real diagnosed aspie.

A guy I was good friends with years ago happened to be Jewish, and he would often talk indignantly about antisemitism in the world. But he would ALSO use the N-word constantly. Go figure.

Being on the receiving end of descrimination can force you to have more empathy for others similarly victimized, or it can make you less sympathic, or it can cause the same individual to be both at the same time (in different contexts).

That neo Nazi guy might have drifted into NeoNazism BECAUSE he was aspie as much as despite being an aspie because misfits can gravitate to fringe groups like that because they can be desperate for acceptence. Who knows? Maybe ISIS attracts some aspies as well. Sorry to say that that isnt impossible.

I thought that lying and manipulating are social skills. Unless something has changed, I have read that Aspies can make crude attempts to lie and manipulate, but they are poor at it and usually get caught. I do know that sometimes a doctor will say that the person is an Aspie rather than having a personality disorder because that is more palatable for the family.

I was wondering that too. That guy LeagueGirl describes sounds more like a sociopath than an aspie to me. I think of aspies as being impaired in the lying and manipulating realm.

That's what I've read.

Ironically, if the neo-Nazi had lived in Nazi-ruled Europe during the 30's and 40's, he probably would have been exterminated, because Hitler wanted to get rid of all "mental defectives."

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Adults could tell the kid was a liar but I believed him because I'm gullible and can't tell someone is lying unless their story is far fetched. My mom knew he was lying about anything he said and she told me he didn't lie to me because I was naive, he lied because he lies and he does it to everyone, it had nothing to do with me.

He is proof right there that kids can be mean and violent and abusive to adults so it always infuriates me about whenever I hear about a violent kid, the adults get blamed for it and the parents for self defense if they have to lock the kid in their room or keep them tied up or whatever. It's like no one wants to believe a kid is capable of being an abuser so if an adult reacts to the abuse, people go "Oh that's why the kid is that way, the mom is abusive." Then I have been accused of lying when I tell them about Frankie to "justify child abuse."

He sounds pretty sick. Unfortunately, there are people like that out there.

My therapist told me he was sick and told me none of it was Asperger's and it was a mental illness he had. No kid tries to get their way by using force and violence especially aspies. My mom thought it was a component of it because I can understand that an autistic person might get upset when they are told no or when there is a change or when they can't do a routine they have but they don't start trying to kick your ass for it and start threatening you and breaking things until you give in. But when I was there, it was none of that I saw. Like if he wanted food, He would scream 'mom get me some food" and not even be nice about it and his mom will just give in and at 15 I thought, if my kid talked to me that way, I would ignore my kid until he asked me nicely and treated me with respect. But with him he would have just gone abusive if she did that with him. Plus if he needed her for anything he just screamed "Mom" and didn't even call her name nicely or shout in his normal tone of voice and he cussed at her. He even hit her too and I said to his mother "why not hot him back every time he does it" and she went "he is getting stronger than me so if I hit him back he will just do it more." I told my therapist all this and he said "that's not Asperger's, that is a mental illness, he was sick."

But he was diagnosed with AS at age seven but he also had ODD too. I think his main problem was ODD because that affected him more than anything. A few people online have suggested he had conduct disorder and according to wikipedia the difference between ODD and conduct disorder is kids with ODD are not aggressive towards people and animals and they are not destructive.

Sounds like a learned behavior.

How so?

His mother reinforced him for his negative behaviors.

I agree. No person automatically dislikes a certain group as child. You may notice differences. I was always fascinated by "chocolate people" when we saw them. But chocolate... is a good thing in most kids minds. A child barely knows what religion they are much less anything about a different or opposing religion.

Now once a rigid OCD or spectrum person learns these behavior they are probably harder to communicate a different view to.
Also peers.. if all the misfits that accepted him liked him for strength and he went the skinhead route with them..





That said I can see the OP suspicion. I would wonder why he bothered to mention his Asperger's (which as handicap in real Nazi regime would get him on first train to the zone of no return) {edit] Broombie observed this too as I was posting

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Maybe, it all starts when they are young before they get too big you are afraid of them so you are forced to give in or else there is violence.

I read that it is important to get violent behavior under control at a young age. After age 10, that behavior is no longer socially acceptable, and that's where people get into trouble.