PEOPLE WITH "SEVERE ASPERGER SYNDROME"

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ALADDIN_1978
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18 May 2008, 11:42 am

Everyone with asperger syndrome has a developmental disorder.

I have notice that people with "severe asperger syndrome" look and act like children, irrelevant of education. I know a guy who is on his mid thirties that acts and looks like a teen at best. Someone I know is so super clever yet does not know what he can do with his Maths degree, cannot handle the change of doing his administration work in his parents' dentistry so has job with data entry and using Microsoft Office.

If they handle work they are likely to need support, cannot handle change, generally cannot realise their potential, they are underemployed or unemployed, and those that are highly educated cannot realise the prospects from their courses. They also have severe social interaction asnd communication difficulties as well as problems with "imagination". This is just an observation not a generalisation so I may be wrong. It depends on family, race, ethinicity, support, location etc.



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18 May 2008, 11:51 am

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You got this from knowing one person?!

You have no idea what's going o in that guy's head.
research more.please.


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18 May 2008, 11:55 am

It seems as if you are angry in a way toward this person you observed.



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18 May 2008, 11:56 am

Actually, Alladin, you ARE wrong! It is a pervasive development disorder BUT the basic requirements and standard disabilities do NOT mean that is ACADEMIC!



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18 May 2008, 11:59 am

I have made obervations on a wide variety of people. They generally cannot look after themselves without support from what I have seen.



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18 May 2008, 12:02 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
Actually, Alladin, you ARE wrong! It is a pervasive development disorder BUT the basic requirements and standard disabilities do NOT mean that is ACADEMIC!

It is a pervasive development disorder but I am saying that someone can be very good in academia but not good in the "real world" such as applying their skills to meet their potential.



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18 May 2008, 12:09 pm

"from what you have seen" is them coping the very best they can.It's not a lack of anything, just themselves living as themselves.*shrug*


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18 May 2008, 12:26 pm

I agree. I have observed this as well. My eight-year old acts younger in the way he doesn't realize his boundaries and asks multiple questions and doesn't seem to get embarrassed.

Yet, he seems more with it then a couple other aspies I've observed--one seemed incapable of discussing anything other than good humor trucks (when he was seven or so) and the other (high school) was academically capable but fascinated with children's cartoons and singing the songs--almost as if he were MR.

This is the paradox with HFA. The individual may be above average intelligence or genius, but socially they are so deficient that they appear to be deficient cognitively and people speak to them as if they were slow. UGH!

I know EXACTLY what you mean. As my son ages, this becomes more apparent. Despite sounding intelligent with large vocabulary he tends to nteract with people as if he were younger because he goes on and on about a place he's been to or one of his interests and then proceeds to add details despite whether or not the person is interested, busy, or needs to stop the converation. It's mostly adults he engages in conversation--I think because they are more polite and can feign interest.

He doesn't seem to be that disabled where he would require assistance as an adult. He seems more with it than the other two kids I described with Aspergers. He has an excellent sense of humor, understands satire, and this, I think, shows engagement. He also discusses how someone reacted to him, the person's intentions and what it might mean. We talk about everything which is helpful. We have lots of together--despite his barrage of questions.

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18 May 2008, 12:33 pm

ALADDIN_1978 wrote:
I have notice that people with "severe asperger syndrome" look and act like children, irrelevant of education. I know a guy who is on his mid thirties that acts and looks like a teen at best. Someone I know is so super clever yet does not know what he can do with his Maths degree, cannot handle the change of doing his administration work in his parents' dentistry so has job with data entry and using Microsoft Office.

If they handle work they are likely to need support, cannot handle change, generally cannot realise their potential, they are underemployed or unemployed, and those that are highly educated cannot realise the prospects from their courses. They also have severe social interaction asnd communication difficulties as well as problems with "imagination".

Great! You just described me (except for the problem with "imagination"... my imagination works all too well lol), and all this time I thought I was on the higher functioning end of AS. I guess I'm more severe than I thought. 8O


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18 May 2008, 12:37 pm

i consider myself high functioning in most ways that are visible, but am likely to never realize my potential, uncertain if i'll ever keep a job, etc. the concept of high or low functioning is deceptive.
i guess i must be 'lower functioning' than i thought, though most people i meet, the experts i visit, etc, tell me i am extremely high functioning.

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It depends on family, race, ethinicity, support, location etc.


that's a bit of a cop out. sounds like you wanted to make a definitive judgement on one person, then say 'oh, i'm generalizing and it can depend on xyz' --- well. then. the outcome of anyone's life may or may not be affected on these points.


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18 May 2008, 3:13 pm

I can't believe you guys. WOW! As for not working to ones potential, yep, I FAIL there! I SHOULD be doing better. I was once told I should be making AT LEAST $250,000! He was RIGHT, but I am only making like half that. :cry: BUT, ******BUT****** there are NTs I am working with that are FAR worse! They don't even make $70K, and do far less. Is that REALLY THEIR potential? WOW! I most have an IQ over 300!

BTW Realize I am being sarcastic! I am just saying NOBODY works to their potential.



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18 May 2008, 3:30 pm

LiendaBalla wrote:
It seems as if you are angry in a way toward this person you observed.


I wonder if that anger is expressed by retaliating against the Aspie.


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18 May 2008, 3:35 pm

Claiming it is not a generalization does not make it less of a generalization than it actually is.



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18 May 2008, 4:44 pm

ALADDIN_1978 wrote:
I have made obervations on a wide variety of people. They generally cannot look after themselves without support from what I have seen.


The only support I need is from law enforcement and the court system when people harass me.


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18 May 2008, 5:23 pm

ALADDIN_1978 is right in some ways. Lots of people with AS act like children when in fact they are actualy teenagers or even adults. I'm twenty-one and think and act sort of like a teenager. People tell me that I look sixteen and sometimes don't even believe me when I tell them that I am actualy twenty-one. So I guess that helps my case. I just hope I look continue to look five years younger as I age. My mother has always been saying my mind is younger than my body. I also know a teenager who's about sixteen and also has AS. He acts like a young child as apposed to a young man.



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18 May 2008, 8:40 pm

I wouldn't call said people "severe". Emotionally inappropriate behaviour is extremely common for people with AS due to problems with recognizing and defining emotions of self, not understanding boundaries and social norms; not seeing how others view them, etcetera.

Your second paragraph is correct [for the majority of individuals with AS], but I wouldn't call them "severe"; most are employed far below their cognitive ability (that's if they are employed).