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13 Feb 2005, 2:16 pm

I just found this site: aspar.klattu.com.au (I didn't make it into a link because I didn't want to increase its page rank). It seems kind of bad.


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13 Feb 2005, 2:28 pm

why? I thought I would ask before I dared to check it out. There isn't like Crow 2 kind of weird stuff on it is there. Man what an aweful sequal.



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13 Feb 2005, 2:41 pm

Yeah, same here. What is it?


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13 Feb 2005, 3:27 pm

Its a bitter woman wanting to blame AS for her childhood, and urging others to do the same.

This is my favorite part-

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You used to know people with AS as:
Nerds, wierdos, eggheads, oddballs, absent-minded professors, eccentrics, loners, people from another planet


I'd have to think long and hard about whether to brake for that b***h crossing the street. If in my deliberations, she got run over, I'd probably feel a little bit bad about it. After all, I'd have to hose the blood off my bumper.

I'm seeing nothing on that site about how to be COMPASSIONATE and understanding that not everybody is cut from the same mold. Did her mom need professional help? Certainly. Does that mean the right thing to do is demonize her? No way in hell.

f**k that b***h.


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13 Feb 2005, 3:36 pm

this is from the same page that was quoted. All human being need to look at the entire issue. not just the sound bite the brain notices. That isn't something that is religated to one group or another.

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What people with AS contribute to society:
Outstanding special abilities, sometimes "genius".


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They have suffered unfair discrimination and abuse for their
Unusual body language
Clumsiness
Just plain being "different"



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13 Feb 2005, 3:40 pm

I read the entire page (and all the links) before drawing a conclusion. Aside from the bits you quoted, which seem to be added just for the sake of having something to point at and say "See? I'm not being negative!", the entire side is simply awful.


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13 Feb 2005, 3:48 pm

I am saddened and angry about this site. She may have a bad mother but was that entirely caused by her having AS, probably not. There are a huge number of terrible NT parents too and a lot of good AS parents.

Yes its good that she seems to be campaigning for support for families that have an AS member. However she seems to draw attention away from this by her stereotypical views of people with AS and he belief that people with AS shouldn't really have kids.

I'm sure that her AS daughter will thank her when she is older for perpetuating the stereotypes about aspies. :roll:


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13 Feb 2005, 3:48 pm

I know for a fact that the way I act has cause more than a few people in my family a large amount of pain. My withdrawls and such have caused me to loose contact with a majority of my family most of the time. Do they not have a right to be upset about how I act? They still love me by the way. but have been very hurt and upset by things I have done. I am not going to dismiss there feelings.

If my family wanted to find a place to vent about my issues I would be very happy. Since venting is a part of life. It is what is done alot on wrongplanet. Venting is not demonizing to me. It is a way of getting rid of stress that I don't do well but wish I could. It can allow for people to be able to behave better towards others.



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13 Feb 2005, 3:51 pm

yep, a lot of it IS negative, in that it reflects what those people really feel. they are allowed to feel like that. but the important bit for me is the following:

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People with AS, and the families who care for them,
have made a huge contribution to society.

It is time that society repays AS families with
decent and adequate
support and resources!


seems to me that's exactly the right thing to be saying.



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13 Feb 2005, 3:55 pm

There is a difference between healthy venting and what this site seems to be doing. Holding stereotyped ideas about aspies and aspie parents- such as suggesting that AS parents can not hug their kids, or even feed them when they are hungry because the parent does not know the child is hungry because they aren't.


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13 Feb 2005, 4:00 pm

vetivert wrote:

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People with AS, and the families who care for them,
have made a huge contribution to society.

It is time that society repays AS families with
decent and adequate
support and resources!


seems to me that's exactly the right thing to be saying.



Yes but where are the campaigns to actually do something about this??? And why are those with AS not 'allowed' to join - surely we would like to do something to ensure that support to families affected by AS in anyway is extended.


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13 Feb 2005, 6:33 pm

Seems like a fair bit of generalisation, to me.

My mother is an NT. She told me she doen't think I should have children, she "doesn't think I can cope".

This kinda pissed me off, I mean not that I want children, but I'm intelligent and can look after myself.

She's been doing this all my life, she looks at me with this disappointed pitiful face when I do eccentric things and says "everyone will laugh at you."

That angers me so much I could go on a destructive rampage.

Perhaps the people who made this site should look at it from the other point of view.. what AS children have to put up with from NT parents.



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13 Feb 2005, 7:45 pm

The main problem with this site is that the experiences of those 100 are claimed to be representative of all people who have grown up with AS parents- Under whose definition is 100 people representative???


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13 Feb 2005, 9:12 pm

Can anybody send a virus to that site? I'm tired of this d***ed generalization about us and evrything else that we have to go through. if they want to b**** about how we need help when we don't, i can find them a nice freaky friday spell so they can see how it feels to be us, and if that doesn't work, then i can always Avada Kedavra them...


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14 Feb 2005, 12:43 am

Mel wrote:
The main problem with this site is that the experiences of those 100 are claimed to be representative of all people who have grown up with AS parents- Under whose definition is 100 people representative???


It's not the number of people that's the problem. It's the fact that they're self-selected.



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14 Feb 2005, 7:20 pm

Sites like those really piss me off. Over half of the tings they claimed their parents did to them ('embarassed us in public with their bizarre and inappropriate behaviour' and 'invaded our space' etc.) have nothing to do with AS, almost all parents enjoy embarassing their children. Anyways, when most people are unfulfilled, or have some other types of problems in their lives, who do they blame? Their parents.

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then i can always Avada Kedavra them...


Good idea, Archmage! As long as I get to do the Cruciatus Curse first! :twisted:

If anyone watns to see another annoying anti-AS website go to forums.delphiforums.com/ASPartners/messages/?start. It is mainly a forum where ticked off and bitter wives/girlfriends go to rant about their AS husbands/boyfriends. They say pretty offensive things about people with AS. It says that we are cold, narcissistic, abusive, incapable of love, and unwilling to change. They say that all Aspies should wear a t-shirt with this warning: Warning: association with this person can cause permanent and severe damage! :evil:



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