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23 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm

How does one interpret this score ? NTs supposedly score around 16, and people with autism score 32. Is a score of 25 in the no (wo)man's land of neither NT nor autistic ? Please help.


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23 Oct 2015, 3:35 pm

Also, I got this :

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 95 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 102 of 200
You seem to have both neurodiverse and neurotypical traits


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23 Oct 2015, 3:46 pm

I got a score of 43. A score of below 32 (or 36) is below the threshold so would mean that you'd be screened out for possibility of autism. They wouldn't continue the assessment.



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23 Oct 2015, 4:38 pm

One of three ways I think.

You're not autistic but just have a few traits.
You are but you have developed enough coping strategies that it appears as though you aren't.
You have a different disorder, ie adhd, anxiety or something like that.

And I'm sure I had another one but I've forgotten what it was now.



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23 Oct 2015, 5:17 pm

I also scored at 43 in my AQ test. Mike


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Your Aspie score: 153 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 59 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie


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23 Oct 2015, 5:34 pm

I always score around 38...



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23 Oct 2015, 6:28 pm

I don't think it means much for you. I wondered whether you might start to ask this kind of question though.

For what it's worth, I never thought of it until my daughter was looking different, and then occasionally I was confused by things she did that were a little like me. But I initially rejected the diagnosis. And I still sort of don't believe it because I'm just me.

My therapist suggested dealing with the why-am-I-labeled confusion by giving other people a chance to express how they saw me with statements like "I know I'm____". Fill in something you think maybe is a little broader autism phenotype about you, see what the reaction is. No labels just maybe "I know I'm a little blunt of course" or " I'm no good at small talk of course" to someone you trust. It helps you see yourself as others do.

These screens depend on you having some awarenes of you compared to others. Like I didn't know I need to get away from people sometimes, I think I'm very social and love company....it takes effort to recognize that everything is relative, and who am I compared to who is everyone around me.

Hope this made sense. Bottom line is the screens can help but they are not always accurate and having read your posts, though I've no idea of course whether you are on the spectrum, you write about a lot of very normal experiences in very normal ways but a lot of what you've written could easily be written about the autistic experience as well.

Also bottom line: you see yourself as you do, there can be benefits but a hgh cost to looking at how am I seen by others. I think it is worth it if you are very unhappy or confused, but there is a cost to looking at yourself through others' eyes and seeing s reflection that looks nothing like the you you know. Proceed with care. I often disagree with you, but I don't want you to to be hurt! :)



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23 Oct 2015, 6:47 pm

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Proceed with care. I often disagree with you, but I don't want you to to be hurt! :)


:)

Self-reflection isn't my forte. And, secondly, you become your own magnum opus after years of having no one else to contradict your opinions of yourself. ASD / NT doesn't really make a difference to me, as I am middle-aged now, but I am curious to know if my persistent social difficulties / challenges are caused by just my early childhood experiences or by anything else.

Can you suggest any accurate tests, over and beyond what is offered here ?


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24 Oct 2015, 10:27 am

HisMom wrote:
Also, I got this :

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 95 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 102 of 200
You seem to have both neurodiverse and neurotypical traits


Is this you being tested? Or your child? Anyway:

These online tests are not the same as a real diagnosis.

I get similar scores when I take that online test. Around 100 for both aspie, and around 100 for NT, with the same comment that "you seem to have both ND and NT traits". But later I took the exhaustive, and expensive (but worth it) real test conducted by a real therapist, and was officially diagnosed with aspergers.

So based on my experience he/you is/are probably a high functioning autistic (or what they called "aspergian" until a few years ago). On the spectrum. But not a an extreme case.



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24 Oct 2015, 10:50 am

I don't know why people react to scoring above 20 on the test. It could mean you have traits or you have it mild. I have also scored a 27 on the test and I am diagnosed but I have also scored above 30 so it varies.

For example: When I was a kid I would play pretend with other kids and using my imagination with them.

Okay this question could mean three different things:

You played with other kids the appropriate way and engaged with them so you can answer yes or no.

You played with other kids but you did parallel play, you did fine with them just as long as you were in control and if they played your way but yet you had troubles with it outside your home because you were not in control so you played alone or just watched them and you sat out and did nothing. Do you answer yes or no to this question?

You played with other kids but you didn't until you learned how and you were older then. Do you answer yes or no.

My answer varies to this question depending on how I interpret it which is why my score fluctuates.

Also I scored in between on the RDOS quiz for the first time and it surprised me and didn't surprise me. My answers to NT questions and aspie were almost all a yes so it put me in between and made both my scores nearly even which is unusual. Also because lot of questions were about relationships and I am married so that could be why. But I was a ND growing up.


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24 Oct 2015, 10:56 am

My latest AQ test result was 19. My parents told me that I am slightly autistic. Neurologically spoken (assertion is true or false), I have ASD, Autism Spectrum Disorder. Over the years I got less and less autistic (behaviorally not neurologically).



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24 Oct 2015, 1:03 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
HisMom wrote:
Also, I got this :

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 95 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 102 of 200
You seem to have both neurodiverse and neurotypical traits


Is this you being tested? Or your child? Anyway:

These online tests are not the same as a real diagnosis.

I get similar scores when I take that online test. Around 100 for both aspie, and around 100 for NT, with the same comment that "you seem to have both ND and NT traits". But later I took the exhaustive, and expensive (but worth it) real test conducted by a real therapist, and was officially diagnosed with aspergers.

So based on my experience he/you is/are probably a high functioning autistic (or what they called "aspergian" until a few years ago). On the spectrum. But not a an extreme case.


Hi,

These are my scores. I have a son with severe autism and a daughter who has been on the radar for a diagnosis for a while now. At best, she sits on the fine line that separates the ASDs from the NTs.

I have had (and continue to have) persistent difficulties in inter-personal relationships in real life. I communicate a lot better via writing, and IRL get along better with people who are socially challenged (especially other social outcasts), Aspies, and anyone who is "different".

Can you tell what professional testing led you to realize that you have HFA ? I am actually concerned and more worried about my 10-yr-old than myself. I am middle-aged and have to come to accept that I will be a social anomie for the rest of my life, so whether I have autistic traits or autism itself does not matter to me. But I am really really worried about my daughter, so your feedback / advise would be valuable to me for her.

Thanks !


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24 Oct 2015, 4:37 pm

Gosh.

Got diagnosed late in life. We had a family crises about other stuff, but caused me to want to finally seek an offical dx for what I suspected - that I have aspergers. A social worker gave me the number of the autism society of America (something like that). Called it, and they referred me to a specialist in my area. And I took the battery of tests with him. It was like three days. At my age neither parent was available (ideally they interview the parents), but my sister and a friend both were happy to be interviewed about me (and my odd behavior I assume). So its both interviews of you, interviews of folks who have known you a long time, and various tests (aptitude, IQ). Quite an interesting inventory of yourself whether they dx you or not. The doctors who deal with your autistic son could point you to asperger/HFA specialists I would think.

You sound like me. I tend to befriend fringe people.



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29 Oct 2015, 5:15 pm

HisMom wrote:
How does one interpret this score ? NTs supposedly score around 16, and people with autism score 32. Is a score of 25 in the no (wo)man's land of neither NT nor autistic ? Please help.


You seem to be misunderstanding the thing about the number 32. 80% of Aspies score 32 or higher, which means that 20% of Aspies score lower than 32. 26 is the cut-off for possible Asperger's or autism, so you could score 27 or 30 and have Asperger's.

You scored 25, however, so Asperger's can be ruled out.