Suzanne Wright diagnosed with pancreatic cancer

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03 Nov 2015, 5:54 pm

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03 Nov 2015, 5:59 pm

I don't like Suzanne Wright; however, I wouldn't want anyone to suffer from cancer.


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04 Nov 2015, 12:12 pm

Finally she'll fight an actual opponent I can get behind. /snark

Cancer sucks. I wish her the best with her fight. If she fights cancer as well as she has fought Autistics, she may well survive this one.


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04 Nov 2015, 4:19 pm

ASPickle wrote:
Finally she'll fight an actual opponent I can get behind. /snark

Cancer sucks. I wish her the best with her fight. If she fights cancer as well as she has fought Autistics, she may well survive this one.

No that will mean she will die because because she fought wrongly and refused to listen to other opinions.


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04 Nov 2015, 4:25 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
ASPickle wrote:
Finally she'll fight an actual opponent I can get behind. /snark

Cancer sucks. I wish her the best with her fight. If she fights cancer as well as she has fought Autistics, she may well survive this one.

No that will mean she will die because because she fought wrongly and refused to listen to other opinions.


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True. She has a habit of ignoring experts.


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05 Nov 2015, 6:52 pm

As much as I can't stand her, I don't wish for her to die of cancer.


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06 Nov 2015, 12:30 pm

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As much as I can't stand her, I don't wish for her to die of cancer.


Agreed. I don't want her to die of cancer either. I'd rather she be raped, tortured, and murdered as justice for the immense, if not irreversible, damage she's inflicted on the autistic community solely out of hatred for her own grandson.



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06 Nov 2015, 12:45 pm

greaserhippie wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
As much as I can't stand her, I don't wish for her to die of cancer.


Agreed. I don't want her to die of cancer either. I'd rather she be raped, tortured, and murdered as justice for the immense, if not irreversible, damage she's inflicted on the autistic community solely out of hatred for her own grandson.

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07 Nov 2015, 2:42 am

It's ok with me if she dies of cancer.


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07 Nov 2015, 2:53 am

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It's ok with me if she dies of cancer.


What...? :(



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07 Nov 2015, 8:09 am

As much of a terrible hate-group as Autism Speaks is, I will never wish cancer on anyone.

In fact, I hope she lives to see that group she runs called out for all of the lies, manipulation, and oppression of autistic people that they do in the name of "finding a cure" before she leaves this earth.

I will never understand the mentality of people who donate to - let alone RUN - a group who openly admits their goal is to find a genetic marker for autism that can be tested for during pregnancy and identified early enough for the mother to choose abortion instead.

That's akin to genocide IMO, but I do not wish cancer on anyone. I won't stoop to her levels. I don't wish for non-existence of any group of humans, unlike her. Not even people like her.


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07 Nov 2015, 10:00 am

An autistic kid is an extra challenge. If (in a hypothetical situation) a pregnant woman were to find out the baby would be autistic (this already happens with Down syndrome) and that she doesn't think she'd be able to cope then I see nothing wrong with aborting it. And this wouldn't wipe out autistics for the same reason Down syndrome still exists - not everyone chooses to abort. Comparing finding a cure to genocide is like comparing abortion to murder and I disagree and don't think it's a fair comparison.



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07 Nov 2015, 1:35 pm

iliketrees wrote:
An autistic kid is an extra challenge. If (in a hypothetical situation) a pregnant woman were to find out the baby would be autistic (this already happens with Down syndrome) and that she doesn't think she'd be able to cope then I see nothing wrong with aborting it. And this wouldn't wipe out autistics for the same reason Down syndrome still exists - not everyone chooses to abort. Comparing finding a cure to genocide is like comparing abortion to murder and I disagree and don't think it's a fair comparison.


New Study: Abortion after Prenatal Diagnosis of Down Syndrome Reduces Down Syndrome Community by Thirty Percent
Note as the article says 30 percent is not the rate of Down syndrome abortion.


Like everything else in America Down Syndrome abortion has become politicized
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/us/ohio-bill-would-ban-abortion-if-down-syndrome-is-reason.html

Fortunately unlike Down's Syndrome autism involves many many many genes and so any reliable ability to abort fetusus in order to prevent the birth of an autistic will occur in the very distant future if it ever does happen.


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07 Nov 2015, 4:23 pm

iliketrees wrote:
An autistic kid is an extra challenge. If (in a hypothetical situation) a pregnant woman were to find out the baby would be autistic (this already happens with Down syndrome) and that she doesn't think she'd be able to cope then I see nothing wrong with aborting it. And this wouldn't wipe out autistics for the same reason Down syndrome still exists - not everyone chooses to abort. Comparing finding a cure to genocide is like comparing abortion to murder and I disagree and don't think it's a fair comparison.


Fair enough. I hadn't thought about it that way.

Genocide may be too strong a word. Just because they seem to want to eradicate the world of autistic people doesn't mean they'd actually manage to make it happen. For it to be genocide it would have to be "the systematic elimination of all, or a significant part of, a racial, ethnic, religious, cultural or national group". I don't know what we could call a "significant part" right offhand. Plus, I'm not sure autistics constitute a group covered by the definition of genocide anyway - are we a cultural group? We're not an ethnic group, racial group, or national group, so cultural is the only one left in the definition that might apply. Is there an "autistic culture"?

Well, that would have to be another thread anyway, I don't want to derail this one. Sorry for the little tangent!


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