Being oerwealmed especially when tired

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24 Nov 2015, 3:32 am

Do you find your potential of being overwealmed, exponentially increases when your tired? In other words let's say you have trouble multitasking, would you say it's like 5 times worse when your sleepy? That is definitely the case with me. I know that'she probably normal for most people like NTsome but it seems like with me there's a steaper drop off point. As an aspe, do you notice that too?


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24 Nov 2015, 5:02 am

infilove wrote:
Do you find your potential of being overwealmed, exponentially increases when your tired? In other words let's say you have trouble multitasking, would you say it's like 5 times worse when your sleepy? That is definitely the case with me. I know that'she probably normal for most people like NTsome but it seems like with me there's a steaper drop off point. As an aspe, do you notice that too?


I do. Do you have a hard time breathing through your nose or your lungs?



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24 Nov 2015, 5:35 am

Yes I notice this too. I'm way more emotionally unstable and prone to negativity and meltdowns when tired.

Interesting question about breathing - I do have trouble breathing through my nose. Are you thinking sleep apnea?



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24 Nov 2015, 6:09 am

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Yes I notice this too. I'm way more emotionally unstable and prone to negativity and meltdowns when tired.

Interesting question about breathing - I do have trouble breathing through my nose. Are you thinking sleep apnea?



I was thinking more facial features. In particular, I think the flatter nose according to this study makes it harder for air to move through. I have a flatter nose and have difficulty breathing.

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24 Nov 2015, 6:38 am

I have noticed that once I pass a certain threshold of tiredness, the onslaught hits me like a truck and I am instantly overwhelmed. It's like a switch gets flipped. My son, who I also suspect to be on the spectrum, is the same way.

I call it my "detail filter." When I'm awake and feeling well, I can block out a fair amount of things. But when I get to a certain point of tired, that ability disappears and ALL the details rush in. I am instantly overwhelmed. I have actually learned that this is my signal that I need to go to bed RIGHT AWAY, instead of starting to yell at my family for things like how messy the house is.

My son is a teenager, and we have noticed that his negative thoughts usually start at a certain time of day (late evening.) This has clued us in that these are mostly caused by tiredness. When I was a teenager, the same thing would happen to me. I don't usually have such negative thoughts anymore, but if I do, I am usually extremely tired.

I think I fight off being overwhelmed all day long, and then get to the point where I'm too tired to fight it off anymore. Then boom, it hits me. That could explain why it seems like such a sudden change compared to NTs who may have a more gradual descent into tiredness.



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24 Nov 2015, 7:04 am

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I have noticed that once I pass a certain threshold of tiredness, the onslaught hits me like a truck and I am instantly overwhelmed. It's like a switch gets flipped. My son, who I also suspect to be on the spectrum, is the same way.

I call it my "detail filter." When I'm awake and feeling well, I can block out a fair amount of things. But when I get to a certain point of tired, that ability disappears and ALL the details rush in. I am instantly overwhelmed. I have actually learned that this is my signal that I need to go to bed RIGHT AWAY, instead of starting to yell at my family for things like how messy the house is.

My son is a teenager, and we have noticed that his negative thoughts usually start at a certain time of day (late evening.) This has clued us in that these are mostly caused by tiredness. When I was a teenager, the same thing would happen to me. I don't usually have such negative thoughts anymore, but if I do, I am usually extremely tired.

I think I fight off being overwhelmed all day long, and then get to the point where I'm too tired to fight it off anymore. Then boom, it hits me. That could explain why it seems like such a sudden change compared to NTs who may have a more gradual descent into tiredness.


This. I too have that "switch" that flips when suddenly it all rushes in and i am totally overwhelmed. Also i get the terrible negative thoughts as i get more exhausted; also see it in my kids. Hubby says it is related to time of month but i think it happens at other times too when i am overwhelmed or a season of life when all is very busy. I try to guard against being too tired but sometimes it happens even when i make a good effort to get enough sleep.



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24 Nov 2015, 8:20 am

infilove wrote:
Do you find your potential of being overwealmed, exponentially increases when your tired? In other words let's say you have trouble multitasking, would you say it's like 5 times worse when your sleepy? That is definitely the case with me. I know that'she probably normal for most people like NTsome but it seems like with me there's a steaper drop off point. As an aspe, do you notice that too?
Oh yes!! Very much so. All of my Aspie traits and issues really get much stronger when I am tired. I get overwhelmed much more quickly and I am more sensory sensitive in every way. My threshold for almost everything drops tremendously and I am more mentally and emotionally fragile than usual.

I also have a my brain has just crossed a line switch once it hits a certain level of exhaustion like others have mentioned above. I don't always feel it coming. It is very difficult for me to gauge the levels of tiredness that I feel or sometimes I can't actually tell what I am feeling so my husband says I am like a ticking time bomb and he never knows when it will go off. I don't understand how tired or overwhelmed I am so I can get really bad without knowing it.


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24 Nov 2015, 9:50 pm

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infilove wrote:
Do you find your potential of being overwealmed, exponentially increases when your tired? In other words let's say you have trouble multitasking, would you say it's like 5 times worse when your sleepy? That is definitely the case with me. I know that'she probably normal for most people like NTsome but it seems like with me there's a steaper drop off point. As an aspe, do you notice that too?


I do. Do you have a hard time breathing through your nose or your lungs?


A little bit I think. Most things feel harder in general. Like if every action you take in the day has a label attached to it with a number in terms of "work effort" needed, it's like multiplied by ten when tired.


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24 Nov 2015, 9:52 pm

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Yes I notice this too. I'm way more emotionally unstable and prone to negativity and meltdowns when tired.

Interesting question about breathing - I do have trouble breathing through my nose. Are you thinking sleep apnea?


In regards to the emotional aspect- yes me too. However at least I'm learning that even when very tired that I've learned that the suffering can be eliminated in even the most over welding situation by simply believing it and learning to master that.


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24 Nov 2015, 10:00 pm

nerdygirl wrote:
I have noticed that once I pass a certain threshold of tiredness, the onslaught hits me like a truck and I am instantly overwhelmed. It's like a switch gets flipped. My son, who I also suspect to be on the spectrum, is the same way.

I call it my "detail filter." When I'm awake and feeling well, I can block out a fair amount of things. But when I get to a certain point of tired, that ability disappears and ALL the details rush in. I am instantly overwhelmed. I have actually learned that this is my signal that I need to go to bed RIGHT AWAY, instead of starting to yell at my family for things like how messy the house is.

My son is a teenager, and we have noticed that his negative thoughts usually start at a certain time of day (late evening.) This has clued us in that these are mostly caused by tiredness. When I was a teenager, the same thing would happen to me. I don't usually have such negative thoughts anymore, but if I do, I am usually extremely tired.

I think I fight off being overwhelmed all day long, and then get to the point where I'm too tired to fight it off anymore. Then boom, it hits me. That could explain why it seems like such a sudden change compared to NTs who may have a more gradual descent into tiredness.


Yes. I can function normally even if somewhat tired but if it reaches a certain point, such as getting less then 3.5hrs of sleep the heavy struggle kicks in. I have howevery learned to cope with this sometimes being that I work and sometimesy gf wakes me up. I find if you really force yourself with the extra effort to be in control of the challenges i.e. negative thoughs, mess, etc. , I kind of get more self over a sort of "hump". I'll still feel tired but suddenly I'm able get my mind to operate at a faster more alert rate for the rest of the day and can be more in control. Sounds crazy but I've done on several different days even some with zero sleep.


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25 Nov 2015, 5:54 am

Very much so. Panic attacks, shutdowns and meltdowns are much more likely, when I feel fatigued.This is not always based on how many hours of sleep I get. I can feel fine on little sleep an lousy on 8 hrs sleep, and vice versa.